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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 19:07 Last Edited By: TechMagic | [?] |
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I'm thinking of offering a limited run of machined airbox delete "kits" consisting of a 1/4" plate cut to fit the contour of the air filter, and the necessary machine screws and standoffs to fasten it down in two places with flush, countersunk allen cap screws. This would be a bolt-up 30 minute mod that deletes the interior airbox cover.
Since this is a feeler, I'll also mention that I've got a "standard" design in aluminum with a beveled edge, but I'm open to other materials such as black/colored ABS plastic, translucent acrylic, etc. I can offer many different finishes from sandblasted to polished Alu. I can also distress/antique/petina for that "steam-punk" look. Variations of paint and vinyl masking are also on the table. I currently have the aluminum prototype installed on my bike with Matter's freebie Black "Buell American Motorcycles" vinyl decal on it. I'll post pics soon. I see there's been some friction around this board with people offering custom parts that parallel other vendor's parts, this is the same idea. It's also a fairly simple idea. I hope nobody thinks I've invented the airbox delete, I'm simply offering a fab service up here to gauge interest and spark creative modification of the original idea. Right now the price looks like it's between about $100 and $150ish (USD) with material and my time. Let me know if you're interested. Chaz Technically Magic: design and fabrication |
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 19:11 | [?] |
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Id like to see some pictures first, but some interest here.
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 19:19 | [?] |
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| Pics too!! | |
| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 19:23 | [?] |
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ASB offers it for 70$ plus shipping.
I think you need to reconsider if this is really worth it for the prices you've listed. The ASB version is very nice and super easy to install. There would have to be something about your product that was unique and above/beyond the ASB model for people to want to spend more. I'm thinking if you can knock it down to 50$ plus shipping they'll go like hot cakes. my 2 cents |
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 19:28 Last Edited By: dave_xb12r | [?] |
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| I think I'll stick with my $8 airbox delete kit. $150 to get less power? You need to have the funnel above the velocity stack. | |
| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 19:29 | [?] |
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I just ordered the Airbox Delete kit w/ breather reroute nonsense from Americansportbike.com for $70.
Did I miss the $8 variety? |
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 19:33 | [?] |
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I just cut mine out
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 19:35 | [?] |
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Look how crafty you are!!!
I'm not that awesome, I just buy crap and bolt it on. Signed, Eric - Inside the Box Thinker |
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 19:54 Last Edited By: TechMagic | [?] |
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Well, this is why this is a feeler.
In regards to the comment about the "nipple" that channels air into the velocity stack, I have moulded my original airbox nipple with silicone rubber and will be casting solid plastic ones. They will be affixed with a bonding agent and one matching countersunk cap screw (if desired) or I can also include a vacuum-formed plate with nipple shape, adhered to the underside of the Alu. plate as a light-weight/alternative option. I am offering the same part in the buyer's choice of material, finish, and hardware in a limited amount. I'm charging what it costs, that's why I included my signature as a custom fabricator, this is a custom part done to the buyer's spec's. Anyone may buy the ASB kit, or Ultimate airbox kit if they wish instead. They may absolutely cut up their own airbox as well. I'm not saying my product is better or worse than any other, I'm just saying what it IS. For those with transparent airboxes, I thought this may be an attractive custom option. Also, I plan on designing a corresponding airbox exterior that allows the air filter to penetrate and show out the top in some fashion based on input from this board and gauged interest. This current mod would "dress up" the exposed air filter. I appreciate everyone's feedback in this thread, and welcome constructive criticism. |
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 20:06 | [?] |
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If you were to make one similar to ASBs, except make it out of vacuum formed clear lexan or plexi. Have Matter make you some Buell decals that are a mirror image, and apply them to the under side of your plates. Paint the buttom, peel the decals. You'd be left with a clear buell emblem that can be lighted from inside the filter. That would sell for sure.
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 20:10 | [?] |
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| Cool, didn't realize exactly what you were selling. After your last post I bet pics would be the next thing to do to get some more response's. I thought you were just selling something similar to the typical ASB product. My bad, good luck with the plates. | |
| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 20:26 Last Edited By: TechMagic | [?] |
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Dave, I like where your head's at, that'd be a simple matter of making a buck from my original airbox, vacuum-forming, decals and paint. No problem (if anyone is interested)
Adam, no problem. I want to be clear that normally I design and build as commissioned or contracted. This project I felt was better offered as a "product" with custom options and open to suggestion. Similar to Matter's thread for graphics. I'll get pics up by tomorrow, the nipple part is what was holding me up, I've got plastic ordered from Smooth-On for another project that I'll be test-casting the nipple in, but I can show the plate mounted. I am offering to build to buyer's spec.s as well though so people can bear that in mind. I can't possibly prototype every idea, that's whats kinda cool about it. I figured people would have different ideas for themselves... I don't want to become the next Buell aftermarket shop either, so between that fact, other projects I'm in the middle of, and buyer interest, this should stay "limited" |
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2009 21:06 | [?] |
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| I'm interested in the part but want to see the pics first. | |
| Posted: 16 Jun 2009 15:53 Last Edited By: TechMagic | [?] |
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Here's a peek at the prototype. A few disclaimers, this was a piece of scrap Alu. so there are knicks here and there. I'll pop it off and show the standoffs, and nipple, once the nipple mould is finished.
This fits very snugly with just the two screws.
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| Posted: 16 Jun 2009 18:17 | [?] |
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Wow, very clean look and nice finish with the Buell logo. Well done. ![]()
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| Posted: 16 Jun 2009 18:19 | [?] |
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| Looks great man!! | |
| Posted: 16 Jun 2009 22:08 | [?] |
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| Very nice, going good so far, now the nipple? | |
| Posted: 16 Jun 2009 23:43 | [?] |
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| Posted: 17 Jun 2009 00:29 | [?] |
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Awesome work...one please!
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| Posted: 17 Jun 2009 02:25 | [?] |
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| that definitely has a very well finished look to it | |
| Posted: 02 Jul 2009 17:29 | [?] |
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| Look good I could very well be interested if it fit easy on my 09 and if my ecm will be fine with that on top of my drummer since xopti is closed now. | |
| Posted: 02 Jul 2009 18:22 | [?] |
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| That'd be too much for the ECM to compensate for. These guys say they are able to remap '09, you might try them if you're going to follow through: JTS Performance | |
| Posted: 06 Jul 2009 15:13 | [?] |
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| I'm still working on the vortex nipple for this, I got another project with a rush deadline right now though. jsg let me know what you decide. | |
| Posted: 06 Jul 2009 17:36 | [?] |
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| Posted: 30 Nov 2009 08:34 | [?] |
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| i want one, are you still going to make them | |
| Posted: 01 Dec 2009 06:27 | [?] |
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| me too please make them. | |
| Posted: 01 Dec 2009 08:51 | [?] |
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sweet dealio!
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| Posted: 07 Dec 2009 16:37 | [?] |
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whoa hey guys haven't been on in a while, haven't ridden in a while, actually and that makes me sad but it's because my shop's been BUSY and that's never bad.
Anyway, what I've gleaned from this thread is that everyone would want a different level of this, starting at the basic design and branching out from there. This is no problem so if people want to EMAIL me: cvance@glauber.com We can talk about what you want to do (add a vortex nipple, brush/blast/paint/decal the plate, etc.) FYI- the base price for the plate and hardware shown above (without the sticker) is $200, and extra cosmetic finishing is a flat rate $50. If there are structural additions we can talk about that via email. |
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| Posted: 15 Dec 2009 22:38 | [?] |
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bumping this back up to the top, I've changed suppliers and can offer a $150 base price to anyone who wants one.
email me at cvance@glauber.com |
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