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| Posted: 27 Mar 2010 15:38 | [?] |
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| just finish my xb 12r,put on a k&n,air box and breather mod and a d&d exhaust. should i buy a race ecm or a spy cable?(i dont know anything about computers or own a lap top) or bring it to my dealer to re program and dyno(it seems realy expencive). it runs great but could be faster. | |
| Posted: 27 Mar 2010 16:20 | [?] |
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| First thing you should do is buy a ecmspy cable if you have a year model lower than an 2007. Next get race maps to load. Good luck getting a race map here. I've been trying for over a week with no luck so far. | |
| Posted: 27 Mar 2010 16:21 | [?] |
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When I first got into my buell I did the same thing you did, the ECMspy cable seemed a bit overwhelming, but it was cheaper than a race ECM, So I went with ECMspy cable.
At first, I was completely lost, but after actually reading steves tuning guide, and finding a couple of users ecm maps, I had a starting point, and worked from there. For example, get the cable and download the Buell Race map rather than buy the ecm, plus you may enjoy it and feel a little more pride in learning that part of your bike. I still have a lot to learn on logging and tuning but I found all the info from this and a couple of other message boards. I promise you when you are with your buddies on their Jap bikes, and you pull out your laptop and tune your they will be impressed. |
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| Posted: 27 Mar 2010 16:30 | [?] |
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the maps are out there, im not sure if a person is allowed to post them on this site, are they not copyright to HD?
one way is to google, Steve Turnbull buell , you can find it from there |
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| Posted: 27 Mar 2010 23:16 | [?] |
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| Okay thanks Jab! I'll try that approach. | |
| Posted: 28 Mar 2010 05:26 | [?] |
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| Here's almost any EEPROM, stock or race, you might need: ECMSpy Download | |
| Posted: 01 Apr 2010 14:52 | [?] |
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the only problem is i do not have access to a lap top...or know how to use it.
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| Posted: 01 Apr 2010 15:14 | [?] |
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he only problem is i do not have access to a lap top...or know how to use it Then that would be a real issue. The race ECM is plug and ride. |
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| Posted: 01 Apr 2010 21:26 | [?] |
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| You could probably buy a cheep laptop and a cable for the price of the race ecm. | |
| Posted: 02 Apr 2010 15:04 | [?] |
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| what is the difference of race ecm over re programing myself? | |
| Posted: 02 Apr 2010 15:12 | [?] |
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| the race ecm you will have 2 ecms to switch between and the other you will have only one. | |
| Posted: 02 Apr 2010 16:19 | [?] |
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Quote: Also, you'd have to buy a Race ECM - "Re-programming" is free minus the cost of the cable and only takes a short time once you get familiarized.
what is the difference of race ecm over re programing myself? |
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| Posted: 07 Apr 2010 14:53 | [?] |
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| i was looking at the cable links on flea bay,they are all undre $50. how do i know wich one is best and will work with my bike..they all claim to be the best with 100% feed back..but i know thats all fixed now. | |
| Posted: 07 Apr 2010 18:17 | [?] |
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| Just get it from the Mike @ Xoptiinside.com. He's a ECMSpy guru so they're guaranteed to work. Plus his were $40 shipped at one time. | |
| Posted: 09 Apr 2010 15:52 | [?] |
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| its 39.00 + shipping around 10. but i cant seem to find any contact or e mail ont his site,just a pay pal buy it know. looks like he was selling wireless reprogramers but gave up. i just want to know if i just plug it inn and press download or do i have to go into every system.i did my truck with a hand held,it was just yes or no.and will it really make that much of a difference,it runs great and is very fast now. | |
| Posted: 26 Apr 2010 03:44 | [?] |
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| Have the escmspy cd, have the cable. Just thought I would load cd into computer, plug cable into bike, and off she goes, but no such luck! Help, anyone! Tried to read installation instructions and not sure if there's a driver needed (or what one is). I was able to get bike to respond with the link, but that's it. How does the program actually run? | |
| Posted: 27 Apr 2010 07:28 | [?] |
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The driver is available from Xoptiinside.com. It also has a link to instructions to install the driver, but I found them to be unnecessarily confusing.
But if you're getting response from the bike, you don't need the driver. I was having a similar problem this weekend (also an ECMSpy newb) and the advice I got was to make sure your eeprom (stock ecm data) is backed up to disk before you do anything. From what I can tell a lot of the functionality in the program is restricted until you do this, to prevent you from irrevocably frying your bike's brain. |
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| Posted: 28 Apr 2010 14:45 | [?] |
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yes it is very confusing to me. i have it linked removed and re installed the stock program,but could not figure out how to get to race ecm program to the screen i need it on ,it is just a map graph and i can not move it anywhere. i tryed it all. i miss my screwdriver
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| Posted: 28 Apr 2010 15:32 Last Edited By: dallasb | [?] |
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Chevnut...if you could explain your problem a little better we may be able to help you. From what I can gather from your problem, you need to copy the fuel and timing maps from the race ecm and paste them into your stock ecm. Follow these steps:
1: Open up ecmspy and the stock eeprom. 2: Open up another ecmspy window and open the race eeprom 3: Highlight all of the rear cylinder fuel values for the race map. Press Ctrl + c on the keyboard. Then paste them (Ctrl + v)it into their the rear fuel map on your stock map. Repeat for the front fuel map. If all your seeing is the graph just uncheck the checkbox in the upper right corner that says "3D map view." 4: Copy the front and rear timing maps using the same method as the fuel maps. 5: Compare the two maps to make sure that everything copied over ok. 6: Close the ecmspy window that contains the race eeprom. 7: Click burn maps and follow the on screen directions. Hope this helps. |
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| Posted: 28 Apr 2010 16:36 | [?] |
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Where can I find the tuning guide that is mentioned in a few of these posts? I did a search, but I'm new around here and not sure if I did it right.
help? |
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| Posted: 28 Apr 2010 16:56 | [?] |
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| nevermind...found it | |
| Posted: 28 Apr 2010 16:57 | [?] |
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| Tuning Guide | |
| Posted: 29 Apr 2010 14:32 | [?] |
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| i did not know or think to copy and paste the map.thanks ill give it a shot when i get the lap top back. | |
| Posted: 02 May 2010 23:41 | [?] |
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| it is very screwed it up now,it wont run good or at all,it pops,backfires,races up and down and stalls. i have to find someone who can do this for me. has anyone paid the dealer to do theirs? how much did it cost? | |
| Posted: 02 May 2010 23:47 | [?] |
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| pm sent chevnut55 | |
| Posted: 05 May 2010 00:58 | [?] |
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Chev don't go to the dealer. I can fix you up.
pm me your email and all bike details (mods and miles). Don't forget the ecm firmware numbers for me. That's very important... Total cost Zilch, Zero, Nada your lucky day I guess. I'll stick by my word. Mike |
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| Posted: 05 May 2010 01:02 Last Edited By: xoptimizedrsx | [?] |
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I need your weight and size to figure the offset scale.
((a + b)!)~(.20133)= tapered drop from dyno to real street afr dependent on Rpm 0/8000 :-) Mike |
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| Posted: 05 May 2010 01:11 | [?] |
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Ok. I went back and read a few of these.
How can installing the driver be difficult. its a download the exe file from the downloads page. then run the file. once it runs. then plug in the cable. the cable will load by itself and you will see a pop up ready to use in the lower right corner the first time. that's all there is to it. its called vcpdriver.exe vcpdriver.exe version 2 tuning guide |
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| Posted: 06 May 2010 16:11 | [?] |
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| all set,took it to a computer wiz and he fixed my mess ,loaded a 05 race program and its great now,cant wait to ride.i will be bringing it back so he can fully tweak everything.ill be staying away from plugging in anything to my bike. thanks everyone | |
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