Firebolt 12000K Xenons installed

[LVsleeper]

After countless hours of research, and not finding much on HIDs for the firebolt, I decided to pull her apart and throw some bright goodies on there, (still waiting on my ASB black anodized aluminum LED signals) I decided on the 12000K kit because it's the closest in the color spectrum to my Navigator's xenons. For the most part they were plug and play, if you can work your way through a wiring diagram, building/wiring a set of relays and running them to your battery shouldn't be a problem. I also opted for a kit for the low as well as the high beam (simply for symmetry) and I usually ride with both on at night anyway
Here are a few shots at the (almost) final stage.
Enjoy, and shoot me any questions you may have of the build
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20080920133642_L.jpg

-Light Pattern for the Low beam
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20080920133937_L.jpg
-Both High and Low Beam on
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20080920134621_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20080920135216_L.jpg
-If you look closely you can see where I wedged both of the Ballasts

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20080920134748_L.jpg
-Both High AND Low beam on (light pattern)

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20080920135011_L.jpg

[bitter rod]

Looks good. How much that run you?[up][up]

[dave_xb12r]

Ind where did you get them? Is the igniter part of the ballast?

[LVsleeper]

cost me less than $300 for everything, ignitor and Ballast all one unit deff. not the slim ballast but as my father always said "beat it to fit, and paint it to match" jk
in retrospect, I would have gotten the slim ballasts, put about 100 miles on her since, no problems, the LED signals just came in today so that's where my afternoon will be spent.

[climberfreak]

those are pretty sweet if i get this new job of mine ill get xenons eventually

[gbalias]

when we goin ridin LV?

[zoedogg1]

Ooof, I just baught a second high beam to replace my low. Now run two high beams with Silverstar bulbs..works perfect.

[XBen12]

Nice work, I have been doing some similar research recently, love to see a pick with your new ASB black anodized aluminum LED signals on too :D

[LVsleeper]

been a few months since the install everything working great, the new ASB anodized signals all but disappear unless they're on. Only problem I've ever had is I got flagged down by a cop saying my lights were "too bright" ::imitates winey voice:: and "right in his mirror" (my bright WAS on, simply for symmetry's sake)

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20081207183145_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20081207182742_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20081207182716_L.jpg

[XBen12]

looks nice! do the signals bolt straight in?

[LVsleeper]

For the most part, you could force the threaded end of the signal through the plastic part of the front fairing but the brace had to be drilled out from 1/2" to 5/16" the rears went right in. Didn't want to mess with load resistors as they can get HOT, so I just swapped out the flasher unit with an LED compatible unit. ($20 plug-n-play from ASB)

[spor_xb12r]

this is great, did you have to take the front fairing off to do the install?

my low and high beam set should be here sometime this week. I got them off of ddmtuning, not to bad the 55w 6k kit ran me 93 bucks shipped.

how much wiring did you have to change, according to the kit i bought its plug and play, we all know that rarely happens.

[Bill]

I did this a while back, and it was straight plug-and-play. They only wickering I had to do was to find someplace to mount the ballast. Well worth the effort.

[spor_xb12r]

awesome, thank you.

[LVsleeper]

Originally I had mine wired through the plug and play method, worked fine for about 6 months. I've since wired a delay relay through the power source, essentially delaying the power to the lights until I get the bike started. That's not to say I had any issues, more of an insurance policy (like the frame pucks) lengthening the life of the ballasts.

[dave_xb12r]

Details?

[spor_xb12r]

yes, please, i heard from my buddy with a daytona 675 that the lights turning on and off during a start has caused him to buy new bulbs.

[strmvt]

Originally I had mine wired through the plug and play method, worked fine for about 6 months. I've since wired a delay relay through the power source, essentially delaying the power to the lights until I get the bike started.

Please explain or post pics on how you achieved this. I'm having an issue with a ballast not igniting. I have pull the fuse start the bike then plug in the fuse a few times til it stays on waiting on a warranty replacement but want to install a switch or even better a delay like you.

[LVsleeper]

I should have taken some shots when I had her stripped down for the LEDs. I can walk you through the install process. it's simple enough...
Parts needed:
DEI 528T Pulse Timer Relay (http://www.amazon.com/DEI-528T-Pulse-Timer-Relay/dp/B0009IR4AC)

Depending on application you may need a standard 30amp relay,
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20090908210003_L.jpg
I opted for the relay socket as well as it made for a cleaner install.
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20090908210013_L.jpg
Both acquired from partsexperss.com if remember correctly
Then obviously you'll need a handful of wire and wire accessories to connect it all.
With you're standard single bulb 35 watt HID setup, you should be fine without the additional relay, as the 528 Pulse Timer has a built in 15 Amp relay.
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20090908210021_L.jpg
If you're using two 35 watt HID's or a single 55 watt HID, I'd recommend adding the 30 amp relay as well, again insurance policy.
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2422_20090908210030_L.jpg
With the pulse timer alone, I'd run a 10-15 amp fuse. With the additional 30 amp relay, I'd run a 15-20 amp fuse. The 528T pulse timer has an adjustable delay, anywhere from 1 second to 90 seconds. Mine is set at 15 and works great for me. Enough time to prime the fuel in the system and start the bike then the lights pop on as I'm gearing up, and voila she's ready for a ride :D Hope this helps all interested in prolonging the life of the ballast on their HID set-up

[strmvt]

I 2 HID's one for low and one for high. Obviously I don't use high that often so I should be able to leave it on the "stock" circuit I would assume. But as for the Low beam I would definitely use the delay. Now to come up with the funds to get the materials lol. I would think I could go to a local car alarm installer and get the delay as I goggled it and it seems to be used in that application. <EDIT> Just got off the phone with them and they actually have them in-stock for 30$ is that a good price? I know on amazon they are showing for 19$ but I don't have access to any plastic lol.

[LVsleeper]

yeah the most I saw them for was $20 (E-bay) and $5 for the 30A relay/harness so it was a pretty cheap upgrade considering the price of a new set of ballasts.
The function of the delay is to keep power from the whole light circuit (if you don't have any power to the low you won't have any to the high) essentially doing the same thing as pulling your fuse from the block (for 1-90 sec.) until you get the bike started and then re-inserting the fuse.

[strmvt]

so your saying I should use a second relay then?

[LVsleeper]

use the method drawn out in the 2nd illustration, I'm also running both low and high beam (it being a 'bolt both are illuminated with high beam on) and this is the method I used

[spor_xb12r]

I have all of the necessary parts ordered, i am going to tackle this next week during some much needed time off. I will be sure to take pictures and document everything. Thank you LV for the wiring diagram and suggestions on materials. I am sure it will come to good use.

[marko138]

How difficult was this timed relay to install? I'm interested in doing this, I've got a HID I haven't installed yet, but I'm not well-versed with electronics.

[JeepinBueller]

Hey LVsleeper!

I'm picking up my '03 9R tomorrow and HIDs will definitely be the first mod other than some sliders. Just some questions ...

1) Did you have to modify the stock projectors to achieve the great cutoff that you got? Or simply plug and play (I'm not foreign to HIDs whether in be plug-and-play kits or complete OEM retrofits).

2) Could a bi-xenon kit be thrown in to both headlights? Or is the driver's right headlight the low beam and the driver's left headlight the high beam no matter which kit you throw in?

3) Not sure if it changed from the '03 like mine will be, but bulb sizes?

Nice work!! Love the install, and love the great look and safety it provides whether it be day or night.

Thanks for the help,
~J

[spor_xb12r]

So I just installed a kit from DDMtuning.com, It was essentially plug and play. I did however follow lvsleepers wiring diagram for the install as I am using 2 55 watt ballasts.

I purchased the same delay and relay piece as lvsleeper as well. Let me say, after looking at his wiring diagram this install was truly a snap.

One thing i made sure to do is that any of the wiring modifications I had to do i made absolutly no change to the stock wiring of the bike so if I need to take the kit off I can with no issue. After wiring in the relay the biggest problem i found was a place to put in all the junk. The ballasts do not run hot at all so you can pretty much mount them anywhere. I also made sure to add some velcrow to the back of the ballasts, timer, and delay but also secured all of the wiring with some zip ties and electrical tape.

I took tons of pictures i just need to get them off of my camera, I will either post my install on this forum or throw them up on my website and give everyone the link.

I owe a huge thank you to lvsleeper as i would not of even thought to put the delay in saving the ballasts. What a difference the 6000k 55w HIDS make.

please feel free to ask any questions you may have, especially once i have my tutorial up.

[dave_xb12r]

Awesome!. I'd like to see the difference between 35w and 55w systems. Has anyone upgraded?

[Evangeliz]

I did exactly the same mod, and it is awesome.
I just have a small issue that with the high beam (even if I lowered it to match the height of the low beam) I get cars flashing their high beams to me alot, which obviously is annoying. Is the lens different between high and low beam?

I now drive again only on low beam :(

[marko138]

I was out after dark last night, really wish I had my HID installed.

[JeepinBueller]

I haven't had a chance to get the front fairing off yet on my '03 XB9R ... what size are the headlight bulbs? I'm going to order a kit (both headlights) from DDM as soon as this is verified.

Also, has anybody experienced any problems with a 55w kit? Any damage to the projectors because of the high heat? I'm in a toss up between 6,000K 35W bulbs and 8,000K 55w bulbs (the higher wattage washes out some of the light so a 55w 8,000K kit will have a 6,000K color).

Thanks!

[strmvt]

my 07 12r is h-3 bulbs so I would assume yours are to

[LVsleeper]

Been out of town for a few,
Spor- Glad this method worked for you
Evangeliz- I get the "flashing" problem if it's late and I'm on a busy road with the high beam, seems now I only hit the high beam if I'm in a dark canyon or dark country roads (not to many of the latter in Las Vegas) and with a streetlamp every 15 feet I rarely use the high beam on the street.

Glad to see this thread moving along, I know to some people wiring/electronics are sort of a dark art, but it is my hope that with this "paint by numbers wiring diagram" HIDs will soon be on more bikes.

[JeepinBueller]

Already ordered a 6000K 35W kit from DDM ... considering the timer relay. This one has a 30A SPDT relay built-in to the timer for ~$12:

http://www.amazon.com/Pulse-Timer-with-Spdt-Relay/dp/tech-data/B0009WP09K/ref=de_a_smtd

We'll see how it works out.

[spor_xb12r]

This is the timer i used. But for the 55w set up i followed lv's recommendation to add in the 30 amp relay.

[Evangeliz]

Hey LVSleeper,

Got another question for you as I'm probably doing something wrong.

I'm trying to get the same setup with the delay timer 528T. I've wired it as the schema shows.
black/grey onto ground of bike
black going to ground of ballast
red and yellow going to power of bike
brown going to power of ballast
Orange not used and blue uncut

If this correct, well then it's doing nothing for me.

You would be too kind if you could help me a bit.

Thanks ;)

Evan

[dave_xb12r]

Damn, tucking all this wiring is going to be tight and those igniters make things difficult. I have the bulbs in and my quick disconnects done, I just have to stuff everything in the fairing and plug it in.

[dvswim]

HA you guys just convinced me to get the DDM kit. Got 6k for low beam and the 3k yellow for the high beam. gunna be sick.

[dave_xb12r]

For some reason I had to swap the orange and brown wires on the relay from LV's diagram. Thanks LV for doing that write up! It really helped a lot.

[nilla]

i am asking 'santa' for an HID kit. mostly cuz i wanna make it easy on the wife to shop for me ...
thanks for posting up all this, guys!

i'm looking at getting the DDM 55W kit. either 6 or 8K. prolly the 6. i don't wanna be annoying with a blue tinge, just annoying.

what's the big deal about these timers?
i get the relay- to protect the circut/switch from over current (even though HID's draw less amps) and to add a level of protection/isolation.

but the timer? is that just to minimize cyciling on the ballalsts?

[JeepinBueller]

Exactly ... the more you cycle the ballast on and off (especially before it has warmed up the bulb all the way) the more wear and tear you put on it. Maybe the previous owner did it, but when I start my '03 XB9R Firebolt my headlights stay on (no auto-shutoff feature for starting the engine). Both headlights are also on during high beam. So I didn't really need it, though mine are still relayed outside the factory wiring.

If you're going to go with the 55W kit, get you can probably go to the 8000K kit without getting blue because the extra wattage washes out some of the color. I have the DDM 35W 6000K kit and it's just a little blue (more noticeable during the daytime for cages). At night, it's still very bright (4300K @ 35W is the brightest/most true to daylight).

Here's a write-up I did (sorry, it's on BuelletinBoard): http://www.buelletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11964

[dave_xb12r]

I got a set of 55w 6000k HIDs from DDM. I don't like how blue they are and I'll be purchasing some 5000k bulbs soon.

[nilla]

so did yous guys put timers in yer setups? should i not worry about the cycling or avoid it alltogether by running a hot lead from the tail light?

DDM seems to have some darn good prices. ebay has got them beat with free shipping, but i'd rather not deal with some joe-shmoe with internet running down to his basement. and if i'm gonna hafta pay shipping; should i just order 4 kits now so i can upgrade all my vehicles?

[dave_xb12r]

DDM has lifetime warranties and yes I put LV's timer delay in. Running a hot lead from the tail light might making starting harder

[nilla]

so if DDM offers a lifetime warranty, why even bother to install a timer? just get a new ballast when it craps out!
-i know, i know; there will be down time and shipping fees and they warranty may not even cover such abuse-

and this just dawned on me on the way home from work: can a relay (in the relay box) be used for this setup? i mean, if it is allready installed ...

[dave_xb12r]

The warranty doesn't apply to bulbs I'm guessing. The timer protects the bulbs.

[islandigital]

Just did this last night- Your diagram is inncorect- You have the brown (normally open) running to the lights- you actually need the orange (normally closed) going to the lights- the timer triggers as soon as you turn the key and this opens the normally closed circuit, making the light turn off. Im going to look into rewiring this so that it actuates the ground instead of the positive- that way if you leave your brights on, none of the headlights will come on since they share a ground.
Posted: 29 Jan 2010 20:18 Last Edited By: dave_xb12r

[brisbon]

So i have to ask people, how many of you have blackened/flaked headlamp reflector chrome. Apparently its an issue with every xb12r and xb9 in production due to heat of the bulbs. Some cases a new housing will fail in only a few months. Others a year.

Maybe we should only be using the 35watt hids. Has antone actually personally noticed that the 35w or 55w hid kits are hotter or cooler than the stock halogens? Regardless of what people say about true hid heat output ive seen some get very hot.

[dave_xb12r]

brisbon, it is a factory recall for 2003-2006

[brisbon]

Yes im familiar yet all they replace them with is just a new set of junk reflectors soon to fail and i think if we run 55w setups were asking fir it.

[dave_xb12r]

Then they can be fixed with a ceramic chrome coat.

[brisbon]

In a spray can? Are the housings steel? I ask because ceremics need to be cured at 300 degrees and higher

[DrogeN Omen]

hey has anyone looked at making a cornering light mod?

I'm looking at making one up. set of lights to put on the side of my bike, with a 3 point switch.

1. both cornering lights at the same time on/off
2. left cornering light on right cornering light off
3. left cornering light off right cornering light on

at this stage i don't know how much power i have to play with on the Buell XB12ss so will need to find out as i don't want to burn out the alternator.

i was looking at custom adapting a set of halogen 12V 55W 60degree view brushed chrome domestic house lights.

also not sure if i would need a ballast or a pulse timer.

can anyone help? maybe with a circuit diagram of how i could do it?

[ramjr55]

What is a cornering light mod? A turn signal? Both on being hazards.

[BuddhaBuell]

ram...this might be what he is thinking of
:)

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4870545/description.html

[dave_xb12r]

I have thought about it before, but I couldn't find a way to hide the corning lights.

[ramjr55]

Okay cool Buddha. Doesn't Lexus or Mercedes have those headlights? When you turn the wheel past a certain point the headlights turns.

[DrogeN Omen]

i started thinking about the need to have side lighting for night riding when cornering...

a couple months ago i was riding at night along a really twisty fun area, i came to a corner that had no center line so couldn't judge my position on the road and as i could not see how close i was to the hill side i ended up scraping my helmet on the cliff face...

i was thinking of modifying a set of these as they already have a protective casing and look stylish...
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100210201234_L.jpg

here is pic of what i think my idea would look like...
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100210195507_L.jpg

[DrogeN Omen]

here's a quick diagram...

i was thinking of wiring it into the headlight wires.

let me know what you guys think.

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100210204237_L.jpg

[DrogeN Omen]

ok this is what i think i need, can get most of it from my local electrical shop.

- 2x halogen spot lights gunmetal color (need to find some cool looking ones)
- 100mm x 200mm x 1mm amber colored perspecs
- Colored Wires
- Wire Sheath/conduit (wire cover)
- 1x waterproof 3 pos Switch (same as indicator switch)
- Power Relay

feedback or ideas welcome... i have no idea what i am doing so any info is welcomed.

still looking for a diagram on the net that i think will work better than mine... any ideas welcome...

I will take pics all through the process and post them when i'm done.

[Pockets]

Where in the world are you riding where it's that dark?

[dave_xb12r]

Maybe you could have a bank angle switch on each light, so when you lean, it turns on that light. Also, when in a lean, the lights in your diagram will be lighting up the ground under you. I think you want them inverted 180 degrees.

[DrogeN Omen]

hi Pockets, i live in New Zealand and alot of the fun twisties are back country roads with no street lights or cats eye's. so good lights is a must.

ok i have been working on a new diagram all morning after i looked at over 50 vehicle lighting mod diagrams on the net and have come up with this one... most of them were 4x4 lighting diagrams, so hope this works.
let me know what you guys think...

cheers
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100211163143_L.jpg

[DrogeN Omen]

hey Dave_XB12r, im not sure how well a mercury switch (bank angle switch, i think thats what they are called) would work as the gforces on a bike are diferent from in a car. in a car they would work very well as most of the 4x4 diagrams i looked at described because of the cars tendency to roll, but on a bike there is no roll the gforce keeps inline, next time your out riding get a paper cup and quarter to half fill it with water and the go for a ride. its the same effect if you put water in a bucket and swing it round and round... the water doesn't fall out of nor does the angle of the water change because of the direction of the gforce.

[DrogeN Omen]

k finaly found the lights i want.http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100211175838_L.jpg
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100211175823_L.jpg

[onelogue]

DrogeN Omen Any luck installing these lights yet?

[ophawk]

All I did was mount Piaa 1100x's where my turn signals used to be, and put them behind my forward vents.
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/1019_20080622003057_L.jpg

I have them wired through a logic switch, activated with the high beam circuit.

two flashes, on two flashes off.

they work great.

[DrogeN Omen]

yeah finally finished them, they came out great.

work really well. so well that my mate wanted me to ride in front so he could see where he was going with my lights lighting the way...

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100304201626_L.jpg
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100304201811_L.jpg
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100304201842_L.jpg
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100304202043_L.jpg
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5539_20100304203250_L.jpg

[onelogue]

Wow those turned out great! [up]

[onelogue]

Ok well i got my HID's installed. Thanks again LV sleeper for the diagram of the delay which i used as well.

I did the single (low beam) 55w 6000k

What you are seeing in this fuzzy picture is where i mounted the ballast and the delay. Ballast is in between the head lights and the delay is just about the left light.
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/3100_20100414215636_L.jpg

[dave_xb12r]

Will the fairing fit?

[onelogue]

Yeah surprisingly it fit. Definitely tight but it isn't putting too much pressure from behind.

[dave_xb12r]

Thats good. It took me several different tries for positioning both ballasts.

[onelogue]

Yeah i was gonna put it behind on top of all the wires but i wanted to eliminate them bouncing around as much as possible. If the fairing shows signs of stress... ill be forced to shove them underneath.
Glad i only had to work with two!!

[BigRedonBlack]

the 4th pic in the original post looks like a puppy looking down on you

[jaywalker]

So I pulled apart the bolt last night to take a look what I was getting myself into. Decided too much wiring for me to start in the evening, but was wondering how the bulbs went in? Have a DDM kit 55w kit.

Do you keep the original bulb retainer & dremel off the rectangle/half oval that go into the original bulb notches, and use that to hold HID bulb down & seated flush?

Also what is the rubber grommet supposed to go into? Looks like I have to open the factory dust cap a little to get the wires through, so thinking it may be used to seal up any hole in the cap. Seen a number of HID installations on different forums, but can't find these answers.

Guess I'll try again Saturday though.

[24_7]

jaywalker, just did the DDM on mine. The rubber grommet can be cut off, you wont need it. The HID bulb with my kit went right in just like stock? As far as the factory dust cap, I just cut off the small extruded rectangle and squeezed the needed wires through the factory hole. Looks almost factory like that

[jaywalker]

Thanks.

Well got them done and they worked last night. Used one of the Worsten tech time delay relays. Damn the 55w are bright.

Guess I did something wrong though, since I noticed no low beam reflected in the car in front of me and felt warmth under my ass today. Pulled over and smelt something burning. The trigger wire had detached, and the whole relay was burnt. Was running a wire from the battery to the relay w/ inline 20a fuse, using the factory low beam as the input, factory ground wire. The fuse blew also on the inline. Pulled that wire off the battery.

Not sure if the trigger wire detaching was the cause. Re-read relay instructions & multiple threads multiple times. Not sure where I screwed up, but will try again, and hopefully bulb is fine

[DrogeN Omen]

got pics of what you did?

[ucsbbuell]

Hope you guys can help me. I just got the ddm setup for my 09bolt. I got it all wired in and used a cool interrupter switch instead of a delay. My only problem is when I turn the high beams on, the right (high beam) light comes on for a couple seconds then shuts off.

Any idea why this is occurring?

[dave_xb12r]

Swap the ballasts. You may have a bad one.

[onelogue]

^^^^ Agreed! Sounds like a bad ballast.

ucsbbuell, can you provide more info on the "interrupter"? Maybe a link.
I have the delay and I'm sure there are better options.

[ucsbbuell]

I went to pep boys to get a delay and they didn't have one. So instead I gota toggle switch and plugged it into the spare spot on the left side fuse box. Now I start the bike then hit the toggle to power the lights after the bike is started. I'll post pics once I get my new ballast and everything is hooked up.

[Evangeliz]

Hey guys, loving this mod since I installed it last year. Lately I had a small issue, one of the ballast died due to not having a delay or switch. Anyway, I replaced the ballast and used the delay. As I modified both my headlights for Xenons I hadn't enough space left to insert the delay, the 2 xenon starters (the black thing attached to the ballast) and the ballast so I decided to make a bracket for the ballast which keeps it out of my way and out of sight. The starters will be placed above the lights.
I thought I'd share it here

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4645/bracket1d.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9158/bracket2.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/813/bracket3.jpg

Before I attached my ballast above my light but I always thought it was ugly.

Note the brackets aren't finished, still need finishing touches.

[jeepin79]

Hey guys, loving this mod since I installed it last year. Lately I had a small issue, one of the ballast died due to not having a delay or switch. Anyway, I replaced the ballast and used the delay. As I modified both my headlights for Xenons I hadn't enough space left to insert the delay, the 2 xenon starters (the black thing attached to the ballast) and the ballast so I decided to make a bracket for the ballast which keeps it out of my way and out of sight. The starters will be placed above the lights.
I thought I'd share it here

What delay relay did you use and where did you buy it?

[Evangeliz]

I used a 528T and just got it from a local electronics shop.

Here some more pics after that I finished them :)

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/5751/bracket4.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9545/bracket5.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2186/bracket6.jpg

[ct1200]

Oh man, just put a set of DDM HIDs in last night, HUGE difference!!!
Went with the 55watt 6k slim.

My one question is has anyone tried to use any other bulbs if theirs went south?
Or are they priparatory connectors?

[jakestolar]

sub'n

[Hero Blue Scg]

anyone use these before? They are the 6000k

http://tinyurl.com/44m8z4q

They also have 8k, 10k, and 12k available.

[ElliottM]

I just now tried the HID mod. Been at it all day. For some reason my relay isn't working. I used the 528T Pulse Timer and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I am guessing there is a loose wire maybe? Just curious as to which wires I should be paying attention to in order to solve this. I wired everything according to LVSleepers diagram.

[ElliottM]

Nevermind my above post, I found the problem. Now, I have everything wired up just as LVSleeper did... When I turn on the bike there is a slight flicker of the light, then they go off for about ten seconds, then turn fully on. Is there a way to set up the relay so that the light is on when the contact closes, and the delay starts with the contacts open? This way the light remains on when the relay contact is closed after some timed delay.

[sccrguy1303]

I have a quick question. I installed the HID as described in lvsleeper's post. It worked beautifully after installation, but after the first ride the low beam turns on with the ignition again as if the timing relay were not even there. Ideas? The bike sat for 8 hours at work. Thanks!

[bigflash1]

A quick question...? I've got an 05 Firebolt XB12. I've been "told" that I would need the H3 size bulbs, but can anyone verify? I need to get some more light going! DDM is waiting on me to verify.

Thanks

[CrazyTexan]

I believe H3 is correct,Thats what mine are anyways... If you'd like to be 100% positive, its just a little clip holding the lights in and you can look at the back of the bulb and see for yourself.

[ct1200]

Yep bolts use a H3

[bigflash1]

Thanks CrazyTexan and ct1200!

[villo007]

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[05Bueller]

I want to do HID's on my '05 bolt, so I guess I'm gonna use DDM's since they seem to be very popular amongst everyone. I'm not the best with electronics and hopefully the diagrams here will help me since they look very detailed. I took engineering courses through high school so I can read a basic diagram...I hope haha.

[chief_of_smoke]

Here is the issue I am running into... should i put in a 35w for my low beam and a 55w in for the hight or should I do both lights at 35w or 55w? and should i do 6k on the 35w and 8k on the 55w? Or am I missing something? I understand the timer and relay, but what would happen if I didnt put them in? I know my V-Rod doesnt need them.

[nikfleisch]

I don't have a timer or relay, they are more prone to breaking as they flash off once you hit the starter. Personally I've ridden tons of miles like this already and mine haven't gone on me....

[chief_of_smoke]

flash off when you hit the starter? why would they. i know on the v-rod mod they dont flash when you hit the starter. and relay and timer are not needed. and from what i have read the orgianal owner must have done the low/high mod because the low stays on all the time. and that mod has to be done to the v-rod to get the hid lights to not flash. hmmm same concept?

[chief_of_smoke]

which brand is the best to use?

[TML]

Guys, LVSleeper has gone way OVERBOARD with the delay and the additional 30 amp.... Damn, think about it. Everyone that puts a HID kit in a car or truck doesn't go through all that. Just plug and play, they will be good.