Best Mods For Torque?

[FIDOSOL]

So what are the best mods for torque? I'm not worried about HP all that much, just straight up arm ripping wheelie popping torque...

Ideas?

[Thaloc]

xb9 Sprocket?
If your on a 12 of course:p

[firechickenXB9R]

The 12 Sprocket is bigger giving more torque.

[LeFox]

- there's a primairy torque kit out for your 9. (=> discontinued?)
- a good low-end aftermarket pipe

[Fock347]

big bore kit will do the trick too.but thats kinda $$$

[TMC]

Blown 572 big block chevy

[maybebuell]

never here talk about timing usuallya few deg retard will make good low end tq but lose a little on the top hp area...can timing be changed

[WULFGODSXB]

i don't know about timing that can be atricky thing on a v-twin. i have seen a 11% primary reduction kit 4 about $200 and i believe its offered by buell

[FIDOSOL]

I would love more info on the primary reduction kits available, and what the best pipe is for low end torque, (and if it's a Jardine then 2nd best, I refuse to buy a freakin' pipe I have to repack over..and over....and over..)

I know that I only have around 67-70 ft/lbs of torque stock, so what is a realistic torque figure to aspire to without just dumping loads of cash into it? I'd like to get up to 85 ft/lbs is that reasonable at all?

[sinpieces]

Hi Fido,

i got the primary gearing kit at my bike.
It runs more even and has more power and control down low. It's easier to run at higher gear and still feel power. Nice for high speed cruising. About the only gripe is that you reduce top speed (at each gear ofcourse). I run maximum 190-195 km/h (118-120 mph) full speed at fifth gear. That speed is redline now, i think i did slightly close to that speed at fourth gear before.
Well, it's not a problem really, not for me i already lay glued at the bike at those speeds (ride xb 12). I mostly tried it, to see if it compensated for the loss from changing exhaust. It works well. It had been freakin great with a 6 geared tranny now :D

[LeFox]

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikelen/06E0E7A5-D833-428B-AA67-038BB3F779BB.jpg

Aluminum billet drive and rear pulley designed to improve torque. Temperate and surface hardned for long life. Special steel galvanized inner part changeable. Don't required any modification. Reduced weight. Totally stainless.

primairy kit is for the 12.

exhaust, for now would be the blaster V
or a buell race, drummer doesn't do that bad either.

[WULFGODSXB]

THE primary reduction kit is offered at american sportbike for 193.10 + shipping (www.amercansportbike.com) ;)

[FIDOSOL]

Never heard of the Blaster V exhaust before... on the primary kit thing....I have a 9 so it's no good for me.

[sinpieces]

No, maybe not. Skip primary gearing kit then.. Foxie posted pics of the kit you can buy, new front sprocket and rear pulley.
V-blast, it's from neatherlands i believe. If you're in the US, this will cost you a fortune (it does for us to). It cost more than anything at the market, atleast incompairson to those that i've seen. Though, they got a race ecm for it. Mapped and ready as extra cost option. Well, it's probably nice. As mentioned, really really expensive. Last time i looked it was something like €1750 (header + muffler) + ecm €340.
Puh:(

[FIDOSOL]

Geez work wounded my pride and you guys are wounding my heart... Keep it coming.

What can I say? I'm a glutton for punishment.

[Bordsnbikes]

I just swapped wheels with someone who has a 12 and her sprocket is the same size as mine from the 9. So how sure are you guys that they are different? Did something change in certain years?

[06xb9r]

Yeah, I thought the belt/sprockets were the same from 9's to 12's and just the primary gearing was different

[Bordsnbikes]

Ah ok, that makes sense then. Any idea how different they are? Maybe a tooth count or something?

[06xb9r]

The 9's are geared for more torque by 11%, I think

[maybebuell]

stock exhaust would help would torque

[FIDOSOL]

The other pipes out there help boost torque more than the stock pipe I have now, I've been looking at the dyno charts online...

[maybebuell]

well if you been looking i can say no more

[FIDOSOL]

I appreciate it though.

[maybebuell]

tryed looking around at dyno charts didnt see any that got higher torque with just an exhaust change....can get some hp...you can gain hp without gaining tq you looking just at the high number or through out the range

[FIDOSOL]

both, peak torque is what you look for when you want to get the front end up, but an overall increase throughout the RPM range as well, just because I care. :D

[Point_Doc]

Here's what I did,
http://www.buelletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7340

[Trill]

just go chain drive and you can always set up how you like... little spendy if you get the racing swingarm but its possible without it.

Good luck!
Happy early turkey day!!!

[Point_Doc]

any link for the V Blaster?

[fastxb12r]

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp?guid=YXHFSC&aid=1718&cid=110&s=&a=


http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp?guid=YXHFSC&aid=1695&cid=110&s=&a=

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp?guid=YXHFSC&aid=1697&cid=110&s=&a=

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp?guid=YXHFSC&aid=1698&cid=110&s=&a=

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp?guid=YXHFSC&aid=1700&cid=110&s=&a=

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp?guid=YXHFSC&aid=1702&cid=110&s=&a=

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp?guid=YXHFSC&aid=1719&cid=110&s=&a=

http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp?guid=YXHFSC&aid=1720&cid=110&s=&a=



blaster v:p

[Point_Doc]

thanks

[Trill]

$1,000 for a slip on????? Maybe if I lose my mind first lol.

[skellybuell]

Bigger rear sproket and buell race exhaust. you could go with smaller front sproket too. Basically change your tooth count more in rear less in front, basically how i like my women. :D

[Point_Doc]

For greater acceleration, replace your XB12 primary sprocket with XB9 sprocket tooth count (34).

If you would like your motor to spool up quicker, lighten the rotating mass by using an Aluminum sprocket.
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2613_20081128111140_L.jpg

I have a brand new one for sale $160.
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2613_20081128111349_L.jpg

[Trill]

what clutch is that.. i googled diamond terminator clutch and got crap.. I have not seen inside my primary but im guessing that is an aftermarket slipper clutch?? info please :)

[Point_Doc]

From www.evoindusa.com

[jsg]

point, on there web page wich clutch is it? The sportser one? or an other one listed there?

[Point_Doc]

Sportster...
http://evoindusa.uia.net/index.php/cPath/10_24?osCsid=7d95188e348009700c3d42c79ce4b110

[jsg]

Cool Thx. So in theory we could go even smaller on the front sprocket with what they have on this web site?

[Point_Doc]

Yes...but the problem will be there is no primary chain available for any other than the one provided from HD/Buell for the XB9&12.

[firechickenXB9R]

Custom chain! :D:p[confused][up][down]

[Point_Doc]

I have looked and asked, but was not able to locate a provider.

There may be one, but I had no luck.

[jsg]

ok Thx again point_doc after my drummer it will be the next mod I think since I rarely use top speed anyway

[Point_Doc]

Yea...the drummer was my first then this.

[dodge]

http://www.boostisgood.com/

[FIDOSOL]

Which one dodge? They still aren't showing anything for Buell's

[FIDOSOL]

Point Doc, I forgot to ask where you got the aluminum sprocket from. Also, I have an XB9 not an XB12 so is there an alternative sprocket for me with a lower tooth count?

Sidenote: Did any of you realize that the primary chain is a glorified bicycle chain? You can get a Chain replacement kit, it comes with a tool for taking out links and adding them. Simple stuff really. Instead of buying a new chain you can just shorten the one you have, or buy a new one and shorten them both so you have a spare just in case Murphy's Law attacks. Any comments/criticisms for that idea?

[dodge]

Kit is being developed right now FDOSOL.

[FIDOSOL]

Oh ok, I remember that now, can't wait for it to come out. Anyone have an opinion on my view of the primary chain shortening?

[FIDOSOL]

I am resurrecting this thread.

Just as before, is there anything that anyone would like to add in regards to increasing torque for our bikes, or reducing rotating mass within the drivetrain assembly?

[GOduc]

could do some light headwork through nrhs, and bolt in cams, reasonably priced, get some torque that way without going to bigger pistons, cylinders, and case boring. be around 800