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CoxyXB9S
12-07-2008, 11:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12YmLsQElRI

GatorBuell
12-08-2008, 12:02 AM
Thats Mike aka. Xopti He custom tunes bikes with Ecmspy and builds his own mufflers. His web site (http://xoptiinside.com/) He is working with a new pipe builder Jim at Voodoo- fab (http://www.voodoo-fabrication.com/) [up] They really got things rolling with the XB's.

climberfreak
12-08-2008, 12:31 AM
sweet that one sounds pretty wicked

CoxyXB9S
12-08-2008, 01:08 AM
Yeah I've checked it out. I would really like to see the dyno charts on what he is getting out of these bikes with his new setup

RHYNOXB9R
12-08-2008, 01:11 AM
i'd like to know what can he is using to do the mod with,and is this an item he will be selling or just his?

XBen12
12-08-2008, 05:27 AM
sick!

Buell_Cru
12-08-2008, 12:24 PM
Read his website and he explains the exhaust build and there is actually instructions step by step on how to make your own.

squiers007
12-08-2008, 02:17 PM
Hey Buell Cru, I searched his website for quit a while and could not find the page where he explains how to make the exhaust. Anway you could post a link to the page you are refering to, thanks.

Buellysses
12-08-2008, 06:39 PM
Xopti/Voodoo-fabrication (http://voodoo-fabrication.com/diy_muffler_pg1)

Not sure if this is what Cru was referring to, but looks like it. That mod certainly is not for the faint of heart.

XBen12
12-08-2008, 07:36 PM
So is this defiantly the diy pipe or is it one of the other custom pipes?

sick sound!

any dyno info?

cheers

GatorBuell
12-08-2008, 08:14 PM
Its a modded stock can, I dont think he has any dyno stuff yet but he does data logging with some other Bullers at a race track in north Florida. Its all at the ground level right now and trying to get going on things. Tattoo72 is a member here and is the owner of Voodoo fab. Maybe he will chime in and fill everyone in on whats going on.

Buell_Cru
12-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Yes that is what I was referring to. Sorry for the delayed response.

tattoo72
12-08-2008, 10:54 PM
Hi guys. Just thought i'd swing by to answer any questions you might have. The DIY muffler on my website is very similar to what Xopti has on his bike in the first video. I knew there were a lot of people out there that wanted to mod their own mufflers. But there were no step by step instructions on the internet for a muffler mod that actualy works good when done. The other thing that is nice is that Xopti has a base map set up to work with this mod. I know I did not have a price listed on my site as I figured most people would want to perform this mod on their own. If you would like for me to mod your can feel free to contact me.

As GatorBell stated things are still at ground level but are taking off fast. There are a few Voodoo mufflers out there now. And the replies back from those that are using them have all been possitive. Unfortunatly I won't be able to do any dyno runs right away. As I spent a ton of money buying extra shop equipment to be able to do these mods. Plus it just started snowing here in the norhteast making it tought to get to the local dyno. :(

Here are a few pics of mufflers that I have done.

The DIY muffler:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101spiderpipe0028.jpg

The Voodoo muffler w/ external elbow:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101blackmajic0018.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/100_2614_00.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/100_2613_00.jpg

Voodoo muffler w/ internal elbow and dual outlets:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101Holiday0001.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101Holiday0012.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101Holiday0016.jpg

If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask.

Jim Gongoleski

oxygen151
12-08-2008, 11:39 PM
The voodoo with the internal elbow is really nice, good work. I like that a lot.

CoxyXB9S
12-09-2008, 01:53 AM
I'm glad that I struck a chord here. Keep it coming[up]

ShawnB
12-09-2008, 04:20 AM
Ohh i want it.!!!

XBen12
12-09-2008, 04:21 AM
The Voodoo muffler w / external elbow looks sweet! never seen this done before, what kind of gain would some like this offer over stock pipe?

what kind of difference would there be between the external & internal elbow?

maybe when the ozzy dollar gets a bit better I might look into it ;)

love your work!

tattoo72
12-09-2008, 07:36 PM
The Voodoo with the external elbow has a very strong low and midrange. It pulls realy good from about 2,000-5,500. Right in the range where most street riding takes place. With this muffler there is also an increase in rev speed. Notice how quickly Xopti's bike revs. It can be seen in the video below.
The Voodoo with the internal elbow is more of a mid to high rpm range muffler. Due to the internal tubing being a bit shorter.

Here is a video of the Voodoo QT mounted on Xopti's bike. Notice how fast it revs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkl_e8_Gfm0

Buellysses
12-09-2008, 07:45 PM
lol [up] +1 for the muffler on the kitchen table! The wife must not have been home.

XBen12
12-09-2008, 10:28 PM
You doods done any tests on the 1203?

tattoo72
12-09-2008, 11:03 PM
Yes testing was done on xb12's. It was tested on a couple xb12 track bikes with great results. It would make a great short track muffler. I'm currently doing some r&d work on a track only muffler for guys running big bore kits. Once completed I will be sponsoring a rider on one of the other forums.

RHYNOXB9R
12-09-2008, 11:18 PM
hey tattoo72,the exhaust note sounds different on the red bike with the polished frame in the very first post here,louder than the others,why is that? also what is the sound differance between the qt and ld? could we hear a sound clip of a ld pipe?

tattoo72
12-09-2008, 11:56 PM
The one in the first video is a muffler that xopti made. It is similar to the DIY muffler on my website. The are both have baffled internals (think Flowmaster). Plus Xopti is very rev happy with his bike.:D Sound level wise the QT falls between stock and a race can. The LD is slightly louder than a race can. The QT is on Xopti's in the vid I posted above. The muffler pictured on my kitchen table above is a dual outlet LD. I will mount it up to my bike tomorrow and try to get a video so you can hear the difference.

RHYNOXB9R
12-10-2008, 01:44 AM
I really like the dual tipped ld one on the table,would this pipe work well with head work,as I will be having some done at a later date.And the louder the better for me,loud pipes save lives during commute hour:D

tattoo72
12-10-2008, 01:49 AM
Yes the dual tip ld would work realy well with head work. It can also be made with an ajustable baffle to help tune midrange tq/hp. If loud is what you are after then you might want to look at the Black Majic muffler on my website. [up] It is mufflers pg.3

CoxyXB9S
12-10-2008, 01:57 AM
black magic huh...i think that is a brand of grip tape, but the muffler is way cooler

RHYNOXB9R
12-10-2008, 02:07 AM
Does the Black Majic muffler perform like the others? How does the adjustable baffle work? Do you access it from outside the can?

tattoo72
12-10-2008, 02:43 AM
The muffler performs great on the street. It has linear power through the whole rpm range. It is louder than the voodoo mufflers. That is why I refer to it as the "hooligan" muffler. It's not so much a "baffle" as it is more of a tuning device. It doesn't cut down the exaust level. It is there to adjust the amount of reversion pulses in the header/collector. Set it open for peak horsepower. Set it closed for maximum torque and midrange power. It is fully adjustable anywhere from full open to full closed. It is accessed from outside the muffler. It can be accessed while the muffler is on the bike.

RHYNOXB9R
12-10-2008, 04:34 AM
i am looking for a stock can right now as i am running a jardine rt1, which is my next question,how does the black majic compare to the jardine rt1, in performance and sound level? and would i need to remap my stock emc? thanks.

oxygen151
12-10-2008, 12:39 PM
Rhyno I have a stock can if you want it, it does have a small dent right in the front though.

RHYNOXB9R
12-11-2008, 02:37 AM
hey tattoo,any comments on the jardine rt1 vs black majic noise level/performance? (no pun intended with the little guy from fantasy island,JK:D)

tattoo72
12-11-2008, 03:05 AM
Noise wise the Black Majic is slightly quieter than the Jardine. As the Jardine is basicly like running a straigh pipe. Power wise it makes very linear power and there is a noticable increase in power compared to stock. I had a Jardine on my xb9 for awhile. Personaly I did not care for it. The fit and finish left a bit to be desired especialy the chin fairing brackets. I could never seem to get a good seal at the front elbow, repacking it was a pain. Plus I never realy had to much faith in the rear support clamp. To me the only thing I like about it was how light it was.
Almost forgot to add that yes it can be run on the stock ecm. But like any muffler out there if you want to truely get 100% from your bike then you should tune your ecm to the combination of parts that you are running.

Trill
12-11-2008, 03:49 AM
This one sounds bad azz too !!!

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RHYNOXB9R
12-11-2008, 04:03 AM
ya,i saw that video on youtube,it's a stock pipe that they cut open and took all the internals out of to get that sound,not very good in the performance dept i would guess.

tattoo72
12-12-2008, 03:02 AM
Here are a few installed pics of a Voodoo LD with internal elbow and daul stainless outlets.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101Holiday0036.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101Holiday0041.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101Holiday0037.jpg

And here is a real crappy vid. It does this muffler no justice. I need a camera with a better microphone. It is supposed to be sunny and 45 degrees on sunday. So i'm gonna try to get a drive by video.
http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/?action=view&current=2005_0101Holiday0033.flv

ShawnB
12-12-2008, 04:11 AM
Hey Tattoo,

How much would you charge if I was to send you the pipe to do the work ? Just labor charges that is.

xlr8n_xb
12-12-2008, 04:16 AM
Tattoo,
Id be interested too depending on prices. Where are you located in the Northeast? Im near Albany, NY.

tattoo72
12-12-2008, 09:55 AM
All the prices and info can be found here www.voodoo-fabrication.com

squiers007
12-12-2008, 02:33 PM
Hey Tattoo, first off I would like to say I love the work you are doing and it is great that there are guys out there making quality aftermarket parts for Buells. Ok, now that I am done kissing ass, correct me if I am wrong, but does Xopti have a 12 header on his 9? and if so, how is that effecting the performance of the bike with the voodoo exhaust. I have a 9 right now and would consider changing out the header and making one of these exhaust if it will increase the performance. Thanks

tattoo72
12-12-2008, 03:31 PM
It's funny that you ask about the 12 header on a 9. I just purchased a 12 header off of Ebay for my 9. The 12 header helps increase mid and top range performance. Bottom stays the about the same. To make it work correctly the header should be wrapped to hold the heat in and help with scavaging. Also there is an addition mod that needs to be performed to the muffler to help with reversion pulses. The ecm will also have to be tuned differently with the addition of the 12 header.

squiers007
12-12-2008, 05:00 PM
Cool, Thanks tattoo. Now I just have to hunt down a 12 header, how is the fit of the 12 compared to the 9? Any issues if I have a rh airscoop?

tattoo72
12-12-2008, 05:14 PM
Fit is the same as the 9. The right side scoop will also clear. The only one I think the right side scoops don't clear is the Micron.

syd2315
12-13-2008, 04:02 AM
I have the Voodoo QT , external elbow, single outlet on my XB12S and LOVE it. Not too loud (my other bike is a BMW) but definitely louder than my wife's bone stock XB12SS. The pipe just has an excellent sound. Jim at Voodoo is great to deal with and makes a first rate product. The weather idiots on TV say it is supposed to be almost 50 degrees on Sunday. Can't wait to put some more miles on.

firechickenXB9R
12-13-2008, 04:46 AM
I thought that the headers where the same? [confused]

squiers007
12-13-2008, 02:48 PM
I think the 12's are a little larger in diameter, but I may be wrong, im sure tattoo knows.

tattoo72
12-13-2008, 03:14 PM
Hi guys. I believe the diameters are as follows.

xb9: 1.5"
xb12: 1.75"

tattoo72
12-13-2008, 06:26 PM
It was a balmy 28 degrees outside today. So I decided to do a drive by video for everyone. Bike is an 05 xb9 with xb9 header, voodoo ld internal elbow muffler with dual outlets. The bike needs a bit of tuning as it is still tuned for another muffler that I had on the bike. Plus my bike really hates the cold for some reason. Or is it me that really hates the cold?? lol

http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/?action=view&current=2005_0101Holiday0051.flv

http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/?action=view&current=2005_0101Holiday0052.flv
Jim G.
voodoo-fabrication.com

RHYNOXB9R
12-13-2008, 06:50 PM
hey tattoo72,dig the sound of the ld,and when i get the can from stikemup,i will be sending it to you,if i am using my stock xb9 headers should i wrap them? and if i go with a set of 12's(if i can find any) will i notice a differance in uaeable hp/tq?

tattoo72
12-13-2008, 07:53 PM
It is always a good idea to wrap your headers. It has been proven time and time again to help make hp. Plus there are the added benefits of keeping your right leg cool, and just looks bad ass! When runnin the 12 headers there is a noticable increase in the mid and upper rpm ranges.

tattoo72
12-14-2008, 12:04 AM
I just received some more info from Xopti about the Voodoo LD / Race muffler pictured above. This muffler WILL require a remap of the ecm.

jsg
12-14-2008, 06:48 PM
Sucks for the 08+ owners[sad]

tattoo72
12-14-2008, 09:05 PM
Not really. Mike (Xopti) can now tune the 08+ ecms and the 1125's. [up]

jsg
12-14-2008, 11:57 PM
Really! I didn't read anywhere that he was there yet with the XB's. I knew for the 1125, but that's some very good news right there. I might get a cable, learn a bit about tuning and buy a map from Xopti :D

Deon B
12-17-2008, 06:54 PM
See the Genius Tech exhaust that we have developed and manufactured at much
less that the normal pipes as available on the market

I have the pipe on my 12xb and over an above the fact that it sounds well; there is a definite increase of performance.

The box has ‘mid-range’ power and suits the low revved buell like a glove
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/1451_20081208133258_L.jpghttp://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/1451_20081208132851_L.jpg

FIDOSOL
12-17-2008, 08:46 PM
Hey Tattoo, is there a difference in performance between a header wrap and ceramic coating? Also are you working on a pipe for the 1125? If so when could it be expected?

tattoo72
12-18-2008, 12:54 AM
There isn't much difference in performance if...you ceramic coat the inside and outside of the headers. I prefer the wrap for a few different reasons.
1. You do not have to remove the header to have it done.
2. You can remove it and go back to stock easily if you don't like it.
3. It is alot cheaper than coating.
4. To me it just looks bad ass. :D

Sorry but there are no plans for an 1125 muffler at this time.

tattoo72
12-18-2008, 12:59 AM
A little teaser of something in the works. :D

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101Holiday0057.jpg

RHYNOXB9R
12-18-2008, 01:02 AM
Where are you going with that? Is that the front of the can?

tattoo72
12-18-2008, 01:11 AM
Yes that is the front of the can. The lower chin fairing will need to be cut out to fit. But I think it will be cool looking.

RHYNOXB9R
12-18-2008, 01:15 AM
You doing a dual outlet,front and back? From the way your Voodoo cans are done,where will the exhaust be sent through the baffles to produce hp/tq ? You posted the pic,I'm just asking ,you started it.:p

tattoo72
12-18-2008, 01:26 AM
It will be a single 2-1/4" front exit. I should have it done in the next couple days. Then if the weather holds out and it doesn't snow again i'll be able to do some testing. One more pic.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/tattoo72666/2005_0101Holiday0060.jpg

Deon B
12-30-2008, 02:44 PM
See our South African developed box, the headers will be available next year.

The box is absolute affordable for any foreigner due to the local exchange rate at date of the ZAR/Euro at 14.5/1 or the ZAR/$ at 9.87/1

The rear part of the exhaust is developed made in such a way that the potential buyer can choose between almost any design for the exit pipe [duel/singe on either side or both sides on different angles and pipe sizes]

Email me at nut@lantic.net for more detail
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/1451_20081208133258_L.jpghttp://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/1451_20081208132809_L.jpg

tattoo72
12-30-2008, 05:01 PM
Wow. Nothing like highjacking a thread.

FIDOSOL
12-31-2008, 04:20 AM
LOL, yea well in the name of all that is TATTOO I take this thread back, and RE-DEDICATE it to the best sounding exhaust I've heard so far from Voodoo Fabrications (http://www.voodoo-fabrication.com/).

tattoo72
12-31-2008, 03:06 PM
That's funny because I only meant my previous statement as a joke. Because I kind of highjacked this thread back at the begining of it. :D

Deon B does have a cool looking exhaust. Looks like a lot of thought went into it. I like how he did the rear mount. Looks like the rear mount is a lot better that the way Jardine did theirs.

CoxyXB9S
01-11-2009, 06:29 PM
It looks cheap to me. plus the pipes come out the same side...why not have it out both so on those colder days when you are sitting at a light getting ready to pull the next wheelie at least both of your feet can get warmed up?