S tail on a Ss = XB12S1/2 [Archive]

nitto12ss

03-29-2009, 10:38 PM

Well this mode was a little more work than I initially thought, but it worth it in my opinion. Hopefully this will help those who are looking to do the same.

The first thing you will need is the seat rails and under trey from the S model. I got mine off of ebay for about 180 dollars. You will also need to purchase the S model seat release cable.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/46bd_1.jpg?t=1238365713

The seat rails will not fit on the Ss without modification, so there are two solutions to this problem.
The first of witch is to have a adapter made similar to this one which is courtesy of AnderSTA from BuellXB. The advantage of this setup is that there is no need to modify the seat rails, and you will not have modify the seat latter in the mod.

AndreSTA adapter

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/album_pic.jpg?t=1238365800

This is what it is correcting

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/album_pic-1.jpg?t=1238365934

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/album_pic-2.jpg?t=1238365967

This is what I had done. The advantage to this setup is it is stronger and cleaner looking, but you will have to modify your seat later in the mod.

I went to a fabricator and had him modify the top of the rail and add a spacer were the bottom attaches to the frame.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1950.jpg?t=1238366041

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1956.jpg?t=1238366071

Once your seat rails fit properly you will have to modify your under tray to make room for the rear shock, because of this you will also have to move your battery forward by cutting the metal tray the battery sits in so that it forms a tab that pushes the battery forward.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1954.jpg?t=1238366179

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1962.jpg?t=1238366232

nitto12ss

03-29-2009, 10:49 PM

I also recommend rotating the rear shock 180 degrees so that the shock reservoir rests on the left side of the bike instead of the right.

Stock location before rotation

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1951.jpg?t=1238366372

after rotation

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1952.jpg?t=1238366409

this will allow you to put the shock reservoir next to the battery and out of the way.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1953.jpg?t=1238366471

I also had to modify/shorten the other metal bracket so it would fit.
Here is a few pictures of what the tail section looks like with everything put together.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1959.jpg?t=1238366498

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1961.jpg?t=1238366557

I had to make an extension out of steel for this ground wire

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1958.jpg?t=1238366596

Now that everything fits you can put your seat on if you went with the first option for the seat rails. If you did what I did than you will have to add a tab for the seat like the Ss seat has so the front of the seat will lay flush with the tank.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1966.jpg?t=1238366635

S seat left, Ss seat right

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1965.jpg?t=1238366674

09XB12Ss

03-29-2009, 10:53 PM

Amazing! [up]

nitto12ss

03-29-2009, 10:57 PM

You will also have to shave some plastic from the under tray so the other tab on the S seat can slide in without problems.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1961-1.jpg?t=1238367096

Lastly you will need to fabricate a bracket for the rear brake reservoir.

Thats about it, now you just need to paint or powder coat everything so it looks nice.

This is the end result

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1979.jpg?t=1238367169

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1978.jpg?t=1238367198

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1976.jpg?t=1238367230

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1975.jpg?t=1238367255

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1974.jpg?t=1238367278

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1973.jpg?t=1238367301

Well as you can see it is a lot of work, but worth it

meetch

03-29-2009, 11:39 PM

that looks awesome!

nitto12ss

03-30-2009, 12:01 AM

Thanks for the compliments guys, now I just need to figure out why it is running so crappy at 2000-2500 rpm so I can enjoy me sweet azz bike. :D[mad]

Stevenc150

03-30-2009, 03:35 AM

Awesome Write-up thread Nitto! Very easy to follow and great pics. :)[up]

nitto12ss

03-30-2009, 04:16 AM

Thanks Steven, that's what I was shooting for. Informative and easy to follow write-ups by other members have allowed me to do so many things to my bike worry free, so this is my way to pay them back.

Nothing is more of a tease than posting a mod without explaining what it took to accomplish it. :(

sorry, I was ranting a bit. :D

Walter

03Firebolt9R

03-30-2009, 12:38 PM

Awesome looking bike. :)

Thanks for the compliments guys, now I just need to figure out why it is running so crappy at 2000-2500 rpm so I can enjoy me sweet azz bike.

Have you done the breather hose reroute? That will help with your 2000-2500 rpm problem.

Also, is that a helmet lock on the swingarm? If so, where did you get it and how does it attach?

nitto12ss

03-30-2009, 12:53 PM

03Firebolt9R, Yes I have done the breather reroute. The problem is I did The Tail swap, the breather reroute and fitted steering damper all at the same time, so I am having a hard time figuring out what is causing the problem.

nitto12ss

03-30-2009, 05:38 PM

O3Firebolt9R,
Sorry I missed that last bit. Yes it is my DIY helmet lock mod, here is the link

http://www.buelletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8677

firechickenXB9R

03-31-2009, 01:55 PM

Nitto12Ss,

What is the round canister on the left side behind the oil cooler??? [confused]

nitto12ss

03-31-2009, 02:02 PM

That is the California emissions canister. [down]

zr_smith

04-03-2009, 04:16 PM

That looks really clean compared to my stock Ss... I think I'll tackle this project myself too. Thanks a lot!

Also, where can I get a front end "gas mask" like that?

Stevenc150

04-03-2009, 04:23 PM

It's an Avon gas mask that can be found on Ebay. About 1/2 down this thread page, Typeone who had the same, talks about fitment on his bike and gives a brief explanation: '05 Buell XB12S (http://www.buellxb.com/Buell-XB-Forum/Users-Bikes/my-05-Buell-XB12S..-./3)

Edit: It's after Polo's posts.

nitto12ss

04-03-2009, 04:45 PM

I did a diy write up on that mask to over at Buelletinboard.com

http://www.buelletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7891

blott01

04-28-2009, 05:00 AM

So is there anything that you would do differently a second time to make it go smoother, etc.? I just purchased a set of s rails and the under tray and a crumby seat that i can use the pan to fiberglass a fighter seat on. I already have subframe spacers that will fill the gap and hopefully the covers will line up. Did you have any difficulties fitting everything under the seat?

nitto12ss

06-03-2009, 02:42 PM

Sorry boltt01, I haven't looked at this thread for a while. The only problem/setback I ran into was the seat release cable. The S cable is about 4" longer than the Ss so I had to order one. As for fitting everything under the seat it requires you to get a little creative, but everything I did was mentioned above. Hope that helps and sorry it took a month to get back to you [smirk]

Post pic's when done

Walter

brightbuell

01-04-2010, 08:59 PM

Bike looks great, plus that right side scoop looks ****ing cool, it really beefs up the bikes chest.. Tight ass seat. Why did you go white with the headers? Does it keep them cooler or something?

nitto12ss

01-14-2010, 02:10 AM

Headers are silver,and they are there for looks only.

Sorry it took so long to reply, I haven't been on the forum in a while.

Kidder

01-14-2010, 02:33 AM

Very well done.[up]

Wolf

03-06-2010, 09:37 AM

nitto12ss

03-06-2010, 05:57 PM

Hi Nitto,
Do you (or anyone else for that matter) know where i can get those adapter pieces for the rails?
Also, did you find the problem that caused the 2000-2500rpm issue?
Hope you still come on this forum, and even more so see this post.
Cheers, and you have truly inspired me.
Hoping to make my mine look as cool as this excpet in all black.
WOLF.

AndreSTA made the adapter for his bike, but I found that is was easier for me to have the frame rails modified by a local fabricator.

The RPM issue turned out to caused by the way I had mounted the steering damper. I had it mounted to the front isolator bolt and for what ever reason at that rpm range it caused the bike to vibrate like crazy. I have a different damper now so all is well.

I have not updated the pics in this tread so here are a few.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_3205.jpg?t=1258226047

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_3191.jpg?t=1256245857

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_3193.jpg?t=1256245896

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_3195.jpg?t=1256245945

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_3196.jpg?t=1256245971

Action shots, this is why I bought it ;)

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/newfile.jpg?t=1266466283

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/20051171-20091025_PalomarMountain_0.jpg?t=1267901722

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt220/Homebrewbillet/100_0022.jpg

12xbl

03-28-2010, 11:59 PM

Looks simply stunning Nitto !!!!

Hey Wolf ..... we will never get away with this mod in Queensland ..... the cops will have you for dinner.

Regards
Doug
12XBL

nitto12ss

03-29-2010, 02:52 AM

thanks man [up]

Wolf

04-22-2010, 04:43 PM

Nitto,
What RH air scoop have you got on this one?
Doesn't look like the ulesses one... something after market?
I ask cause it looks perfect and genuine.
Cheers,
WOLF
ps: Doug - stuff that, i'll make it work!
(with your help of course :D)

nitto12ss

05-09-2010, 02:37 AM

Wolf, the air scoop is from buellxb member Lefox. Contact him and he will make it happen.

Ps. sorry it took so long to reply, I am in a police academy right now and have not been home in 6 weeks.

Wolf

05-26-2010, 03:19 PM

;) thanks for that... good luck with the academy and if i'm ever over in the US again, i promise to behave.... as much as possible :D
Cheers,
WOLF

bajaraider

06-21-2010, 10:04 PM

It is quite possible I missed something, but...
What kind of muffler is that? It looks as thought the pipe was routed back into the can and out the front?!?

dave_xb12r

06-21-2010, 10:19 PM

Its a voodoo front exit pipe

bajamxr77

07-03-2010, 05:28 PM

First off Nitto, awesome bike, hope all went well at the academy. Secondly, has anyone else accomplished Nitto's tail swap? How about with Andre's spacer idea instead of modifying the rails? Just curious, I would like to see some more finished products if anyone has them. I have located all the parts and I am getting ready to put the hammer down. Getting nervous... or excited...!
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bajaraider

07-08-2010, 09:22 AM

Nitto, or anyone who has done the same,
Have you seen any issues or problems with removing the belt covers?
It looks real sharp with out them, but is the protection of the belt needed?

Wolf

07-28-2010, 07:03 AM

I've tried sending a message to AndreSTA
but no joy so far (ie no reply)...
so does anyone know him and could pass on a message of "some guys want to buy you stuff" ??
Cheers either way, and thanks again for this great Mod write up.
That makes two of 77 that are ready(ish) to go.
Just getting myself sorted slowly but surely.
WOLF

crxtasy169

07-28-2010, 04:44 PM

I tried to contact him as well about a month ago with no response since, I've given up all hope[confused]!!!

stang65pony

08-19-2010, 09:08 PM

reference post.............gathering parts for this mod. looking for an undertray and left side rail.

Wolf

08-29-2010, 04:39 AM

While we're at it... what exact parts is everyone getting?
Do we have an actual list?
Going to try and make an adapter of sorts down here in OZ. If it goes well, i'll let all know.
Cheers,
WOLF

crxtasy169

08-29-2010, 08:18 PM

Hell yeah if you can make a good looking clean adapter I'll take one! Let me know.

stang65pony

08-29-2010, 09:13 PM

yeah i'd be down for an adapter too depending on cost

bajamxr77

09-13-2010, 03:28 PM

stang65pony, I am with you, still waiting on 1 side rail and the trunk pan that I ordered months ago, everything else is in the box ready to go. Wolf, did you get your adapters finished? If so please post. I am waiting until I get the other rail to disassemble my bike, size up the fit, and decide whether to go with an adapter or mod the rails like Nitto.

crxtasy169

09-13-2010, 07:51 PM

Anyone thought of something like this I think there is enough meat on there to slot it out a bit. Plus if you ever wanted to reverse is you could, just use the new hardware. Also I forgot to draw in the 5mm spacer between the mount and the new S rail. Anyone possibly with a totaled frame willing to spend a little time and try this or anyone who is just plain nuts?http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/4087_20100913134647_L.jpg

bajamxr77

09-15-2010, 03:05 PM

crxtasy169, I think that could work! I am not at home with my bike right now so I can't put my eye on it, but from Nitto's pics on the last page, it does look like there is enough on that nub to slot it. It doesn't look like it needs much. Do you think with the slot and spacer on the bottom, the top will bolt up correctly? Would you be able to tighten the bottom enough to keep it solid, (no play)?

bajamxr77

09-15-2010, 03:06 PM

Oh yeah, my other rail shipped today! All I need is the trunk pan!!

crxtasy169

09-15-2010, 06:26 PM

Yeah I think it will stay tight especially if you use a little medium locktight. Yeah the top will bolt up for sure. What I would do is bolt the top in and then mark how much needs to be ground away to slot it out, that way there is absolutely no mistake with how much you grind out.

bajamxr77

09-18-2010, 05:07 AM

I think that will work. I am anxious to get a closer look at the frame nub when I, get the trunk pan and break the bike down. If it looks like there is enough room for the slot I am going to try it. I will post pics whenever that happens. How about you? Got all your parts? Ready to give it a go? If you try it first , please post. Again, thanks for the great idea.

crxtasy169

09-18-2010, 08:40 AM

All you have to do to get a better look at it is pull the bottom two bolts and lift the tail to see the two mount tabs I did this the other night and it was easy to see. I took a couple measurements and it looks like it will work, the only part that worries me is the thickness of the mount at the back it actually tapers from the outside to the inside. But then again with the measurements I think it will be ok as long as you have a steady hand and a good method for slotting it out! Don't forget the 5mm spacer!

blott01

09-18-2010, 10:32 PM

Did this mod this last spring while I was waiting for the weather to change. Very simple once you figure out the lower frame rail. I did not have to do any modifaction (it's coming this winter though..) because I have the trojan sub frame spacers that I had installed on the bike. The spacer fits the gap perfectly and rotates the tail upward making the difference less radical. However the spacer covers do not line up perfectly now so they will get tended to this winter. What you will need for the build is the s rails, undertray, s seat latch cable, s battery tray, and seat of choice, personally went with the scg seat because I'm only 5'9 and the tail lift does give it a little more altitude..

Another advantage the sub frame spacers gave me on this mod was that I was not forced to notch the undertray and battery tray for clearance. Other than the covers not lining up perfectly in was a simple bolt on mod. Once I had the parts it just took an afternoon. You will have to get very creative to get everything in, but that's the hardest part.

blott01

09-18-2010, 11:29 PM

Some recent pics, it really needs a bath and the frame rails will get redone this winter thanks to the clip on a utility knife. Just did some new graphics, aluminum grips from ASB, aluminum bar ends, and my 190 on the back :D

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2651_20100918165642_L.jpg
This is the offset that was left, will mod the covers to match this winter

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2651_20100918170838_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2651_20100918171554_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2651_20100918172307_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2651_20100918171833_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2651_20100918171121_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/2651_20100918172740_L.jpg

crxtasy169

09-19-2010, 02:51 PM

I want to figure a way without jacking the tail up I just don't like the jacked look, there has to be a way!!!

Wolf

09-21-2010, 06:50 AM

Well, other than the S seat latch cable (thanks for the reminder, will order that tomorrow)...all the other parts are bought and on there way. Some will arrive earlier than the others being that i'm down under in OZ, but should everything here by the time i need to drop off bike (help where i can).
Agree with above, not my idea to have the jacked up look. Just not for me. Going the 12sx seat as the SCG is just too thin and we have some long kilometres (miles for you guys) to cover.
As for parts being chased by the above (btw Baja - did you order form ASB?)
Sprinter187 has battery tray and trunk pan. Quoted me $50 for the pair shipped to Kansas. Grab it while you can lads.
Anyone going ahead 1st, please pics and vids. Otherwise, in a about 5 weeks i'll get started and look at hwat options are available.
Cheers,
WOLF

bajamxr77

09-23-2010, 02:55 PM

blott01, your bike looks good, but as with the others I am not going for the high tail look, trying to keep it as low as possible, but good info none the less and thanks for the pics. The aluminum grips are tough! Wolf you presume correctly, I did order all my parts from ASB several months back. I have been working with AL. He has been great on keeping me posted on availability. To date, I have everything except the plastic trunk pan. ASB assures me it is to come. crxtasy169, I am planning to go your route when I get the parts. So far it looks like the best and simplest plan. Honestly probably won't have the time until later in Nov. Hopefully I will have the trunk pan by then. Dude if you do it before then, let me know how it goes. Side note...has anyone seen a large luggage bag, (the top one that clips on to the side bags) for sale....anywhere?

Wolf

09-30-2010, 07:24 AM

Update:
a bit of a step back as the 2 rails i had lined up where both RH.
So have to wait like most others on the LH or whichever is the delayed one.
Funny how HD produce one side right now but not the other.
Sucks to say the least, but what can i do. Oh well.
WOLF

bajamxr77

10-02-2010, 08:26 PM

I Now have all my parts!! Both rails, trunk pan, bat pan, seat release cable, and seat! I am so stoked! Now the bad news. I am still not home and won't be until late Nov. That will be the soonest I could do the switch. If I don't have time then it will be next spring. :( crxtasy169, how about you? Have you tried your idea?

Wolf

10-02-2010, 09:05 PM

Don;t sweat it too much big fella, with any luck we may have options and solutions by November (i tuly hope).
Looking to explore all avenues and see what works best. Film and pics as much as possible.
Baja - where did you source your rails from as HD are empty? where they from ASB, and when did you get them if i may ask?
Cheers,
WOLF

crxtasy169

10-03-2010, 09:08 AM

Haven't had the money for parts lately as soon as I get the parts it's on. I also want to put the S swing arm on. Sucks having to convert everything but they didn't offer the S for 09 and I'm too big for an SCG.

bajamxr77

10-10-2010, 12:55 PM

Wolf, I got all my stuff from ASB. Had all the parts on order since last spring or so. All the parts filtered in slowly. By mid Sep I had everything except one rail and the trunk pan. The rail came at the end of Sep, trunk pan the beginning of Oct. Hope that helps. The actual dates elude me.

Wolf

10-21-2010, 08:29 PM

Nearly there.
Waiting on one side rail from ASB.
Then shipping ot OZ ofcourse.

WOLF

Wolf

12-17-2010, 03:53 AM

Work has commenced.
At the moment, it looks like the cutting and welding of the rails is still the best option.
All depends on the internals.
Pics, vids and write up once all done.
Cheers,
WOLF

bajamxr77

12-22-2010, 03:23 PM

Sweet! Super stoked to see your write-up! Still haven't had time enough to start on mine.

Wolf

12-23-2010, 06:01 AM

Dammit!... postponed til after Holidays.
Was always going to be tricky, since some of the work is being outsourced and conflicts with holiday period.
Keep you all posted.
Cheers,
WOLF

stang65pony

12-23-2010, 09:02 AM

im getting ready to do this mod too guys. i have all the parts required, just need to get after it. will happen soon after the holidays. the seat rails i was able to find were damaged so i need to get them fixed too. might as well do it right!

straightpipeit

12-30-2010, 12:16 PM

I started my S conversion last night, got the bike torn down and kickin around the idea of JB welding some aluminum bolts into upper frame holes, cutting off smooth, drill and tap where I need to be. Has anyone tried this? It looks like there is enough meat on the frame to relocate the hole a tiny bit. I am going to try using frame spacers first because I want the jacked up tail look and hopefully Monday I can upload some pics.

Wolf

01-03-2011, 06:04 AM

I realised the spacer would cuase a different look, the jacked up style, hence why i have opted for the welding the arms to suit. Make it look stock like the pics at the start of this thread.
We'll all have some great stories i imagine.
Best of luck to all.
Cheers,
WOLF

straightpipeit

02-14-2011, 02:22 PM

Sorry I didn't post pics on "Monday" waited 5 weeks to get trunk pan from ASB. Went ahead with some home made spacers. Actually, not that difficult once you get the correct parts. I don't know what you guys used, but here is my parts list for an s tail conversion. Hope it helps anyone doing this mod.
S Model parts
1. Side rails
2. Trunk pan
3. Battery tray
4. Seat latch release cable
5. Rear brake reservior
6. Seat

BuckDaniels

02-14-2011, 08:00 PM

So using spacers instead of modifying frame or rails worked ok?
I'm starting to consider this but I don't want to do anything permanent to my frame. Also don't want to make it any harder to flatfoot.

nitto12ss

02-14-2011, 08:18 PM

Where are the pic's? [confused]

straightpipeit

02-15-2011, 08:08 AM

quote]So using spacers[/quote] I'm still waiting on a few little details, (rear master reservior, seat lacth cable) then tear down and paint. When I reassemble I will document my changes with pics and post. Yes, the spacers worked perfect and I used steel stock that makes up the difference in the gap at the bottom of the rails. I used the SCG seat because I like the look of it and my feet are actually coser to the ground now than with the original ss tail. And I'm only 5'9". Have'nt rode it yet, but it does seem to change my position a little more forward on the bike.

nitto12ss

02-15-2011, 08:31 AM

Pictures required Pipeit.

BuckDaniels

02-15-2011, 07:29 PM

I'm getting interested. Can't wait for more details. Sounds like you have the result I'm looking for :D

Wolf

02-16-2011, 03:51 AM

Ditto.
Question:
is the Rear brake reservior from the S actually needed or can the SS be used?

WOLF

straightpipeit

02-16-2011, 11:07 AM

I have a favor to ask any "S" owners. Can any of you measure the rear shock reservior hose from center to center of the banjos? The ss bikes have a short hose that puts the reservior on top of the wire harness when converting to a short tail and is too cramped for long term. I can assume harness damage will result from vibration and heat. The longer s hose is not avialiable by itself, but I found a shop that can make a hose and recharge the nitrogen, it would be helpfull to have an exact length to look clean and original.

straightpipeit

02-16-2011, 11:51 AM

Here is my work in progress

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110216053911_L.jpg

spacers at the bottom of subframe create clearance for rear shock

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110216053820_L.jpg

But now I got an ungly space/gap. Thinking of sheet metal "cover" that would slide over side rail attached by and only showing upper bolt

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110216053805_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110216053754_L.jpg

I will post more when as I complete more. I did this mod because I saw Nitto's bike on this post, but I like the jacked up tail look.

nitto12ss

02-16-2011, 12:27 PM

Looks good, but the only problem with doing it that way is it also lifts the tail. Just one more option available to everyone now, thanks for posting.[up]

bajamxr77

03-02-2011, 01:50 PM

straitpipeit, looks good, I am glad to finally see someone go through with the mod. I am going for a low tail look like Nitto's. I have all the parts just none of the time. Hoping to get to it this spring. Pretty sure I am just going to have the rails reworked at a fab shop. Nitto any chance you would turn loose the contact info for the shop that did the mod on you rails?

Wolf

03-03-2011, 03:07 AM

Agree. Go the fab shop.
Looks neater, and as i was told, stronger.
Cheers,
WOLF

nitto12ss

03-03-2011, 07:06 AM

Nitto any chance you would turn loose the contact info for the shop that did the mod on you rails?

I would if I could remember. LOL
The guy is located in Riverside CA, my dads friend told us about him. Nothing special was done though, and unless you live in SoCal I would just find a local guy. If you really want his info I can try and find it though.

bajamxr77

03-17-2011, 03:59 PM

Nitto, don't go through too much trouble. I will hit up some local shops first, if I run into problems I will get back to you.

nitto12ss

03-17-2011, 04:17 PM

10-foursies ^^^^^^^^

Wolf

06-06-2011, 04:08 AM

UPDATE (sort of): well i've been out of action for 13 weeks now, massive operation on my foot (instead of my ride :D ), but never the less, the mod went ahead so i've been told.
I have a very good mechanic friend who has worked on this when he had time, and told me it should be ready very soon. He's taken notes, pictures, and even video (i think) of what and how he's done it.
So fingers crossed, i will have a pimped out XB with a short ass and a very, VERY, happy rider.
Post up when i can.
Cheers,
WOLF

bajamxr77

06-07-2011, 08:34 PM

Wolf, I can't wait to see! Had a good 230 mile ride today, plan to start my tear down tomorrow afternoon.

straightpipeit

06-08-2011, 11:38 AM

It helps alot to have a shop lengthen the rear shock resivior hose to mount it where it belongs on the s tail. The seat will latch fine with no need to alter tabs or latch position and the spacing in perfect at the airbox cover. I had mine done 11 5/8" center to center. if anybody wants pics I can post them, otherwise, I've been too happy riding this thing!

bajamxr77

06-08-2011, 07:15 PM

straightpipeit, I would like to see it. Always looking for new ideas. Tore my bike down today, will take the rails by machine shop tomorrow...

straightpipeit

06-10-2011, 08:16 AM

baja,I will post the pics this weekend, I went home last night to find out my wife let our neighbor borrow our digital camera.

nitto12ss

06-10-2011, 03:39 PM

Do we want pics, of course we want pics. ;)

Wolf

06-19-2011, 12:57 AM

Agree...pics.
Damn the neighbour, get camera! :D
Heheh... all good, whenever you get a chance.
I'm now just waiting on my new tailpiece to arrive from Europe. [up]
...and hopefully some turn signals from another supplier down under.
:( the wait is killing me!!!

straightpipeit

06-21-2011, 09:00 PM

I fuggin hate computers. Its says,"file too large". WTF? I have all the pictures ready but the sumagun won't let me put the god crap!ARRGGGHHH!!

nitto12ss

06-21-2011, 09:07 PM

motivation for you guys

from this

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_1887.jpg

to this

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/turf2/IMG_3760-1.jpg

Wolf

06-27-2011, 08:49 AM

GREAT motivation Nitto.
My parts arrived from Germany, and getting it fitted along with some LED indicators on Wednesday.
- Straigtpipeit -
Get a photobucket account and post links....should be easier for you. Sorry if that's what you are doing already.
All mearly there i've been told.
Fingers crossed it meets my expectations.
WOLF :D

straightpipeit

06-30-2011, 10:46 AM

Okay, here we go. 2006 xb12 ss with s tail and straight pipe exhaust. I have no idea why the pictures are little, then big, then sideways. If I only knew computers like I do cars and bikes! http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110630042803_L.jpghttp://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110630042837_L.jpghttp://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110630042858_L.jpgThis picture shows the relocated shock reservoir with a 11 5/8" ctc hose. The seat latches down perfect with no spacers and the front of the seat mates perfectly to the air cover. Very comfotable to ride.http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110630042822_L.jpghttp://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110630042837_L.jpghttp://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110621151950_L.jpghttp://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8657_20110630042452_L.jpg

2004xb12s

06-30-2011, 12:14 PM

Looks good straightpipe...Alot like mine :D[up]

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/8453_20110627020118_L.jpg

nitto12ss

06-30-2011, 12:25 PM

Are you stunting that thing, or just going with the bigger is better philosophy on those axle sliders.

2004xb12s

06-30-2011, 12:31 PM

the bigger is better philosophy on those axle sliders.

I trimmed them down when I made them and i was gonna trim them down again to about an inch and cap the ends but I kinda like that they look different. idk im still up in the air about it.

Wolf

07-15-2011, 11:21 PM

So my XB is in the final stages of some mods. Had a smallllll glimpse, and then the drool got in the way. Anyways, was hoping to have the Buellfighter yesterday (friday) for an annual ride with some friends. No joy, didn't want to rush it, so looked hiring a bike for the day. My mechanic guru (Doug) said not to hire, i can borrow his 1125CR while he worked on mine. Hot Damn!!!... other than some tiny quibbles, i friggin loved it! As soon as i got on, sweeeet as a cherry. Easy to ride, even easier than my XB. Slipper clutch is the best thing ever made, WHAT a difference. I will admit, very dangerous for me.... way to easy to lose a licence on this badboy. And then some!
As for my bike, we have an ETA of next Saturday. Not getting my hopes up too much, but oh wo sweet if i get back by next weekend.
Q: what is the standard nitrogen pressure in the rear shock set at please?
Cheers,
WOLF

stellio78

07-28-2011, 01:32 AM

Wolf how's the progress? Pics.

Wolf

07-29-2011, 08:16 AM

Neeeeearly there.
Getting a bracket for the reservoir/shock from the states.
Hoping that will be the last major part needed, then it's a matter of finishing it off.
My mechanic has barely shown me the pics - keeping it under wraps but has it all documented. Will post the lot once complete.

straightpipeit

10-04-2011, 04:44 PM

I dont know how to do pictures very well on here, but you can see my bike on facebook if you search through my mobile photos. Justin Borja search email jstncstm500@yahoo.com. I have been riding my short tail for a few months now, and I love it. I got on a regular ss the other day and it felt like riding a goldwing.

Wolf

10-05-2011, 10:48 PM

Ok...more to come.
But for now:

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Pegasus%20Prime/DSC01997-03.jpg

Wolf

10-05-2011, 10:50 PM

Big thanks to Nitto for the inspiration. ;)

bajamxr77

10-14-2011, 09:57 PM

Wolf, Congrats! That looks awesome! I just got my rails back from the machine shop today (snapped this pic) and then they went off to paint! Should have them back Tue morning! Hoping to get everything back on the bike Wed. - will post pics when I am done. -Bajahttp://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111014155603_L.jpg

bajamxr77

10-22-2011, 09:34 AM

Finally finished my SS to S tail swap! Will post pics soon, but it is 75 degrees today and time to ride!!

Wolf

10-24-2011, 03:50 AM

BEFORE:

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/2011-01-13144721MorganandWackercutoff-RossStNewstead-2.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/PegasusPrimeBUELLFIGHTER02-email.jpg

AFTER :) :

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/DSC01997-03.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/DSC01982-02email.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/DSC02051-02.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/DSC02068.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/DSC02070.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/Nebo03.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/Nebo04.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/Nebo02.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/Nebo01.jpg

bajamxr77

10-25-2011, 11:46 AM

Wolf your bike looks great! Great pics and beautiful scenery. My bike is done and I have pics to post just haven't had time to downsize and post them yet. They will be on soon! -Baja

bajamxr77

10-27-2011, 11:11 AM

First off, as said before, many, many thanks to Nitto for the inspiring idea and thread!
Here are a few pics from my tail swap. Everything went back into the S tail well. I even had room for a little padding between the battery and the shock reservoir. A few things went different then I had expected: I did not end up needing to modify the S trunk pan or battery pan for rear shock clearance. On my bike the clearance is minimal but sufficiant even when the suspension is compressed. I also didn't end up needing the 5mm spacers at the bottom. The rails mated to the frame flush when fitted to the trunk pan. Lastly I did not have to extend the ground cable from the fuse box. I am guessing the differences on these things were due to the machining process and how the rails ultimately ended up. Another thing to note: after the rails were machined I had them rhinoed, which threw off the way the parts fit together due to the thickness of the coating. This required some sanding and shaping to make them to fit properly. I also had to raise the seat latch up 3/16" with washers to get it to catch the hook on the bottom of the seat.

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027035213_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027035048_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027034749_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027034827_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027035358_L.jpg

I ended up cutting the fuse box holder/seat latch mount bracket in two and trimming off the plastic nubbin on the S trunk pan so everything would lay flush. However I would recommend, to anyone doing this mod, go ahead and order the mount for the S model. I made a bracket for the SS rear brake reservoir but I would also recommend ordering the S model brake reservoir, eliminating the need for fabbing a new bracket.

Bracket
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027034429_L.jpg

Nubbin, hard to see in this pic, but it is tiny and in front of the part that supports the seat latch.
http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027034537_L.jpg

bajamxr77

10-27-2011, 11:17 AM

Here are some finished product pics of my SS to S tail swap, a few are with my wife's Scg. -Baja

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027035733_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027035600_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027035528_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027035857_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027040020_L.jpg

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/7045_20111027040123_L.jpg

Burton

10-27-2011, 11:20 AM

These are great pics. I hope you sent some to Dave for the calendar!

Wolf

11-02-2011, 03:36 AM

There's a calender?!

nitto12ss

11-02-2011, 08:47 AM

Looking good guys, glad you got it sorted out.

2004xb12s

11-02-2011, 09:01 AM

Sick Bikes but you need to make the easiest upgrade to pull it all together....The bars!

bajamxr77

11-02-2011, 10:06 AM

Bars... I am thinking black Renthal with crossbar for mine. I don't if my wife will want hers changed or not. What is the bar diameter 7/8" ?
Oh yeah, and to quote Wolf, "There's a calender?!"
Burton, please tell us more.

straightpipeit

11-29-2011, 10:24 AM

Everyone on here, your bikes look KILLER!!! Changing the world, one stubby butt SS at a time.

Wolf

12-11-2011, 04:49 AM

Would love ot be in the calender. Oh well.
As for bars...i have the Hagen flat bars. Wide and would not want to go lower ;)
Cheers guys
WOLF
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/CagedWolf02.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/CagedWolf03.jpg
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac15/rigoprime/Next%20Wave/Buell%20XB12ss%20Custom%20-%20BUELLFIGHTER/CagedWolf04.jpg

...as my surname is Prime, it seem to fit well. :D

jlrenken

06-08-2012, 02:47 PM

So what if a person wants to go from an S to an SS has anyone done a write up on that. I also was looking to do the S to SS swingarm other than the shock extenton spacer what else would i need.

bajamxr77

06-21-2012, 04:35 AM

jlrenken, I haven't seen a write up on S to SS. I do recall someone else asking about it, over a year ago though....search old DIY threads. If you end up needing SS parts I have take offs from my conversion. (seat, rails, trunk pan, battery tray, long seat release cable) All in great shape. I will be posting them on here and ebay the next time I get home. Probably mid to end of July. I do not have any swing arm or suspension parts though, as they stayed on the bike. -Baja

jlrenken

06-22-2012, 06:09 PM

baja check your pm

Wolf

07-04-2012, 12:10 PM

For the record:
A few people have shown interest in the SS parts for the 12x Ulysses.
That's a cool mod too, SS tail on a ULY. [up]

nitto12ss

07-04-2012, 04:55 PM

The Ulysses and SS share the same frame so the tail swap should be a direct bolt on. Could be a good way to offload your leftover parts after you switch from SS to S.

Wolf

08-08-2012, 01:28 PM

Heheh... should be, but it's not.
Quite a few things to be aware of under seat.
The guy that bought it off me (with a vast knowledge of bikes) came to a hault when certain cables and undertrays became involved... from memory.
Not overly difficult, but prepare before diving in.
Cheers.

sicsteeth

10-19-2012, 02:10 AM

Hot damn, if only I had alternate means of travel. Meaning I can't do this mod, even though I want to so desperately!!! It's my DD and if I can't get to work, I'm fired :( great job though!!

orgeopes

02-01-2015, 08:27 PM

Decided to bring back this old thread because it is kind of a brain storm on how to do this mod and was really usefull to me doing the S tail conversion

maybe someone did the same as i but i didnt saw it on line yet so here it goes

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/12522_20150201135447_L.jpg
to solve this problem i decided to go with a no turning back solution

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/12522_20150201135527_L.jpg
all i need was this: Metal repair paste, 22x5mm spacers, 3/16 UNC tap, 1/4 inch longer bolts, 6,5mm pre-tap drill and a 8,5mm pointing and spacer offset drill (sorry iÂ´m in the metric system :)

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/12522_20150201135627_L.jpg
filled the existing thread hole

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/12522_20150201135748_L.jpg
fitted the spacers and with the subframe in place using the 8,5mm drill pointed out where the new holes should be and used the same drill to overpass the spacers

drill the frame with the 6,5mm drill and tap it in the new spot

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/12522_20150201135916_L.jpg
where magic or bull**** hapends :)

http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/12522_20150201140012_L.jpg
and ready for test ride!

If you need a SS/STT complete subframe i need your money... :)
eBay Link (http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221679038341)

Raiden

10-30-2015, 05:50 PM

ToneTheMoan

10-30-2015, 06:31 PM

Yes mate you need the subframe, just the left and right seat rails as i call them! the cheesegrater or rear light mount are the same so your SS one will fit the S subframe/rails!

Raiden

11-01-2015, 01:33 AM

Yes mate you need the subframe, just the left and right seat rails as i call them! the cheesegrater or rear light mount are the same so your SS one will fit the S subframe/rails!

Thank you ! What about The " under tray" and adaptor?
Maybe iv already found The left and right subframe , But i want make sure to buy just The right parts! Thank you again

ToneTheMoan

11-01-2015, 09:55 AM

Yes you will need the under tray and battery tray/holder and thats it so its the 4 things you need, 1. L/H seat rail, 2. R/H seat rail, 3. plastic under tray, and 4. the metal battery tray then its a case of take your time and do a practice assembly before you start cutting stuff up! If you need anymore help give me a shout on here or pm me i dont mind, good luck! :eagerness: sorry what do you mean by "adaptor"?