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captain chaos
06-12-2014, 04:14 PM
So I was just browsing around the other day and I came across this at Cycleworld; a dyno plot of an EBR 1190RX as compared to a Ducati Panigale. A few things struck me as I looked it over:
http://www.cycleworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/EBR-1190RX-vs-Ducati-1199-Panigale-dyno-chart-590x381.jpg


1) The EBR has a gloriously FAT spread of torque. What a beautiful curve that is! A nice wide spread down low and just enough of a bump up high to add some excitement. In my experience, engines with perfectly flat torque curves tend to feel a bit ‘flat’ and ‘boring’. I like a slight increase in the upper end to make it feel like it ‘charges’ to redline. On paper anyways, the EBR looks like it ought to be just about ideal!

2) 161whp! That is some SERIOUS mustard from the Buell. Sure it’s down 6hp on the Panigale, but from a tiny company like EBR to get THAT close to the benchmark of all twins is IMPRESSIVE! 161whp is about what my 1st gen Hayabusa made and I can tell you from experience that is an UNHOLY CRAP-TON of power! Especially when you factor in that the EBR is easily 100lbs lighter than my Bus was. That number also puts in right in the thick of the current literbikes.

3) The EBR and the Duc have VERY different curves. Ducati obviously went all banzai for that big peak number but created a ‘hole in the middle’ type of power curve. The EBR has a fantastic spread of torque and is only down 6hp on the Duc. I’d give up 6hp for a big meaty midrange every time, especially considering that the 6hp advantage the Duc holds is only in the very, very top of the curve. Seems to me that EBR has created a nearly ideal street motor.

All in all, I’m VERY impressed and proud that an American bike is FINALLY right in the mix with the big boys. GO EBR!!! I hope his bike sell like crazy so they can keep developing and maybe bring the price down to something that I can rationalize (18k is more than I’ll spend for ANY bike, regardless of who makes it or how good it is).

303xb
06-12-2014, 04:25 PM
Ducati sacrificed mid range for the higher hp #. I'll take the ebr curve all day.

mrlogix
06-12-2014, 05:05 PM
All in all, I’m VERY impressed and proud that an American bike is FINALLY right in the mix with the big boys. GO EBR!!!

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buellxb9rs
06-12-2014, 06:36 PM
Compare that to these:
http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/large/63437877883642233211sb_torque.jpg
http://www.motorcycle.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/328835-2/2012-japanese-superbike-shootout-hp-dyno-1.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=TMP_SESSION_ID_DI_NOISSES_PMT
http://www.sportrider.com/sites/sportrider.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/import/page_element_images/146_1209%2B2012-literbikes-dyno-horsepower-new%2B.jpg?itok=Av9fDgaa

noone1569
06-12-2014, 07:09 PM
I'll stick with my EBR anyday over those. The roll-on power is outstanding.

Netzman
06-13-2014, 12:48 AM
Here are a few stats I came up with while researching the differences between the EBR and DUC

EBR 1190RX HP 161.2 weight 443lb .363 hp/lb Listed price $18,995
Panigale 1199 HP 167.1 weight 420lb .398 hp/lb Listed price $18,995
Panigale 1199 (S) HP 167.1 weight 420lb .398 hp/lb Listed price $24,495
Panigale 1199 R HP 167.1 weight 417lb .400 hp/lb Listed price $30,995 (So for 12K you lose 3lbs?)

The wet weight of Ducati’s is measured with all fluids plus fuel tank 90% full. To compare apples to apples I took the weight of the EBR (419lb wet, no fuel) took 90% of fuel capacity and multiplied by the weight of gasoline (4.5 X .90 = 4.05 X 6 = 24.3) and add them together (419 + 24 = 443).

With the EBR powerband spread more evenly it makes me think it has would be a close shot to see which is faster.

heagachongoose
06-13-2014, 01:40 AM
Wow. 5000rpm. 'Nuff said.