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dave_xb12r
11-14-2009, 06:20 AM
This was posted on buelletinboard

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/spike240sx/514244.jpg

acepilot79
11-14-2009, 07:30 AM
What is it? It has some Buell cues but how? what ever it is I like it. Its kind of a mix between a Ducati and an 1125r

nilla
11-14-2009, 09:23 AM
me thinks it's an 1125 with an entire plastics set. to me it just looks like all the other sportbikes out there.

onelogue
11-14-2009, 09:52 AM
bad ass though! Kinda losing the "Buell look" but its repping the rotax motor so i approve :)

roadrocker
11-14-2009, 12:11 PM
Holy crap I love it ! The cut lines rather than the elephant ears. full plastics sweet ;)[up]

rmarquez
11-14-2009, 01:39 PM
Even if it is a buell I bet its not available. But if you know were One is I want to know.

afinley
11-14-2009, 02:41 PM
didnt the company kinda go out of business in 2010?

I hope that isnt just a normal 1125 with a plastics kit, because I am going to be kicking myself for getting an xb instead of an 1125

dave_xb12r
11-14-2009, 05:02 PM
All from ASB was telling me that there was a smaller displacement liquid cooled bike in the works. The this could be something the 2011 825R

dave_xb12r
11-14-2009, 05:22 PM
"Alright boys, Buell sales are down and we need to do something about it so here's the plan. We're going to announce that we're closing up shop. We'll stay closed for 3 months during which we'll clear all of the new bikes off the showroom floor by having liquidation prices. We'll have to keep our employees quiet, so we'll give them healthy bonus's for acting sad depressed and not leaking info. THEN we'll start riding one of the new bikes around town. Let some viral pictures float around and continue building demand. When we re-open the doors, we'll have no more XB line and a brand new amazing looking liquid cooled line. Everyone will want one of these "Limited production Buells". That will save the company!"

onequick5o
11-14-2009, 05:31 PM
makes sense

nitto12ss
11-14-2009, 05:44 PM
"Alright boys, Buell sales are down and we need to do something about it so here's the plan. We're going to announce that we're closing up shop. We'll stay closed for 3 months during which we'll clear all of the new bikes off the showroom floor but having liquidation prices. We'll have to keep our employees quiet, so we'll give them healthy bonus's for acting sad depressed and not leaking info. THEN we'll start riding one of the new bikes around town. Let's some viral pictures float around and continue building demand. When we re-open the doors, we'll have no more XB line and a brand new amazing looking liquid cooled line. Everyone will want one of these "Limited production Buells". That will save the company!" wishful thinking, but that would be cool.

GatorBuell
11-14-2009, 06:48 PM
Thats a aftermarket body kit for a jap bike retro fitted to the 1125.

dave_xb12r
11-14-2009, 09:30 PM
But the tail is way different! Have you seen inside the 1125R tail? It would be REALLY hard to relocated all of that stuff.

GatorBuell
11-14-2009, 11:54 PM
Im just being pessimistic, If I find out things like this bike were in the works when HD shut it down I will cry myself to sleep. So for now its a set of plastics being prototyped by sharkskins for the aftermarket. [confused]

xtremelow
11-15-2009, 12:32 AM
Sick looking 1125, like the fact that it us custom even more. You can see the frame, swing arm, ZTL, and upper air cover which all indicate that it is just a custom kit.

poppinsexz
11-15-2009, 02:20 AM
Twas the barracuda, the next generation 1125 platform, supposedly a completly revamped design. From annony on another Buell board.
In the dumpster now.[sad]

poppinsexz
11-15-2009, 02:24 AM
Look closely at the front wheel you will see that it's got the spokes cut out. Not your std 1125 rim.

xtremelow
11-15-2009, 04:19 AM
The tail isnt much different than the race tail.

http://www.motorcyclingmag.com/files/2010-Buell-1125RR-Racing-Motorcycle.jpg

xtremelow
11-15-2009, 04:40 AM
Sorry for such a big pic didnt realize it until it was to late for me to edit it.

Also wanted to add, I think Buell made a mistake by not going with that design if it was a prototype, much cleanen lines IMO.[up]



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toddb3
11-15-2009, 11:36 AM
I'd like to see someone with an 1125R put a Sharkskinz Firebolt upper and lower on their bike and a race tail like in the above picture, it would probably look as sick or more than the UFO pic.

rmarquez
11-15-2009, 01:45 PM
Alright boys, Buell sales are down and we need to do something about it so here's the plan. We're going to announce that we're closing up shop. We'll stay closed for 3 months during which we'll clear all of the new bikes off the showroom floor by having liquidation prices. We'll have to keep our employees quiet, so we'll give them healthy bonus's for acting sad depressed and not leaking info. THEN we'll start riding one of the new bikes around town. Let some viral pictures float around and continue building demand. When we re-open the doors, we'll have no more XB line and a brand new amazing looking liquid cooled line. Everyone will want one of these "Limited production Buells". That will save the company!"
Posted: 14 Nov 2009 12:31


If this is true I see a second buell in my future instead of the kawa monster zx-14.

Buell_Cru
11-15-2009, 03:38 PM
Why would you ever see a ZX-14 in your future anyway?[down]:D

rmarquez
11-15-2009, 06:44 PM
Why would you ever see a ZX-14 in your future anyway

CAUSE BY THE TIME IM ABLE TO GET A SECOND ONE THE 1125r BUELLS WILL NOT BE SOLD ANYMORE.

xtremelow
11-15-2009, 07:39 PM
To: Toddb3

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t80/AussieXB12SS/1125R1.jpg

http://thekneeslider.com/images/1125rfairing3.jpg

http://thekneeslider.com/images/1125rfairing.jpg

oxygen151
11-16-2009, 03:26 AM
The spokes on the front wheel are cut out. At first I thought it may just be blurr from the pictures but it looks like the inside of each spoke has been removed.

The tail piece is definitely different then the race kit tail. Where the plastic comes down to the seat is much thinner; it looks like jap tail. The "production-like" qualities of the license plate and turn signal piece definitely makes me think this was not a custom bike. Plus the weird little reflectors hanging off the tail screams stock. hmm, its too bad this may never come about.

Macbuell
11-16-2009, 03:46 AM
Sorry guys, am I going to be the 1st to say that I dont like it? Makes a buell look just like every other bike I see on the road. I do not like it at all, and would go Ducati if I wanted a look closer to this. Sad that I needed to look for the ZTL brake to make sure this was a buell :(

xtremelow
11-16-2009, 04:23 AM
I was only compairing the 1125RR tail since it is so small.

I think it is just a concept bike, sometimes the hardest answers are found with the easiest explinations.

The tail reminds me of a CBR1000RR, otherwise the only thing that doesnt look "Buell" to me is the side fairings. Considering it is an 1125 not a Firebolt.

LeFox
11-16-2009, 08:44 AM
it's a 1125r with ducati 1098 front and a race tail section of...cbrr? gsxr? r1?.

Tank
11-16-2009, 06:39 PM
Macbuell,
What exactly is wrong with resembling all of the others? Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Ducati...all still THRIVING, not just still in business. HMMMM! If Buell comes back as DaveXB says...maybe our value will come back and we can think of buying the UFO, or simply trading it out for something with the potential of still being here in a few years! Look, I loved my XB12R, like my 1125R, but if I wasn't trying to buy American only...any year 999, or any R1 would have been my first choices...for asthetics and quality!

marko138
11-16-2009, 07:57 PM
Dont like it...at all.

Red93stang
11-18-2009, 02:40 PM
Barracuda was a nice project, 200hp redesigned 1125. Anything on two wheels with 200hp, who cares what it looks like, and if it resembles a 1125R,bonus!

marko138
11-18-2009, 05:16 PM
Barracuda was a nice project, 200hp redesigned 1125. Anything on two wheels with 200hp, who cares what it looks like, and if it resembles a 1125R,bonus!

If it was 200hp and affordable, then I might come around to the looks! :p

Sidewinder
11-18-2009, 05:54 PM
There's a link to Kneeslider on Buelletin Board that says this was the 2011 Buell with a 1199cc engine that weighs significantly less. I'm not sure what significantly less means because 375lbs dry really isn't that much to begin with.

Here's the link:

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/11/14/what-was-buell-working-on-when-the-end-came/

aaronbuell
11-18-2009, 06:39 PM
A stock Buell with 200hp! If thats true makes me want to think H-D didn't shut Buell down because they were losen money, but becuase the japs paid them off cause they were scared. At least it makes me feel better.

henri66
11-24-2009, 10:01 AM
This completly screws my HD-strategy topic.

But if this bike is;
- Ready to roll.
- Rotax driven.
- Potential JAP killer (don't take me wrong on this one!)

And Harley has cut off all it's ties with Buell.

Then what would stop an investor to restart the legendary Buell brand!

The furture looks bright.
And I will keep my XB as a classic.

BU(E)LL

rmarquez
11-24-2009, 12:55 PM
I like this look at leaste the front end would prefer a more beefed up look on the back end but if I can ride it for long rides like I can my XB I can adjust. And if it will lead the pack on the straight runs like it does on the curves even better.

Tank
12-01-2009, 02:47 PM
Has anyone read the Kneeslider article "Harley Davidson and Buell - Unfinished Business"
Unfinished Bus. (http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/11/19/harley-davidson-and-buell-unfinished-business/)
I thought it might be a good read for some... also check some of the smack on the link in the article about additional thoughts. I love it when bloggers catfight!

thebassbuilder
12-02-2009, 01:52 PM
My thoughts on this bike is, to little to late. This is the bike they should have put out the first time instead of the same old bike with a different motor and an futuristic 80's looking front fairing and the worst designed radiators covers ever made on it. And for those that think it looks like a Jap bike or Ducati, guess what they are still in business for that reason. To sell things it must appeal to the masses or the upper class and the bike did not coast enough for the upper class. So that leaves all the rest of us. If they would have made that bike the first time, they would be in business today, I would be willing to bet. Also my 2 cents on the future of Buell. He has quite HD already and started a race bike company then I think he will start up again and maybe we will see this bike come to life. To race in the AMA type class I do believe you have to be producing motorcycles but don't quote me on that. So lets just keep our fingers crossed on seeing this spy shot bike come to life. Also for the one who said it is an after market fairing set find it and put a link on here.

09CRRED1
12-19-2009, 04:10 AM
does nobody think this could be a really good photoshop pic and i talked to a mechanic and he said there is no way to get rid a the side cowls it deffinetly looks good but its just a really screwy pic

twisted
12-19-2009, 02:49 PM
Has anybody thought about that this is the only way to design a buell that hd can not say hey you are using our patents?[confused] He has to change what he created to shut hd up, come on hd didn't make it but they kept the patents.

ace9540
01-04-2010, 12:19 AM
if buell comes out with another bike ill be p*ssed!lol! i payed way to much for mine!http://www.buellxb.com/buell_images/5665_20100103151124_L.jpg

jcrane82
03-19-2010, 04:00 PM
If everyone doesn't already know this......the original picture posted on this thread is of the 1190 superbike they were in concept stage with. EBR has now made that engine/bike the 1190RR:

http://www.ebracing.com/motorcycles/1190RR/

I have comfirmation about this since I was at EBR a week ago and talked to the man himself. I even saw the original spy shot bike.

The 1190 no longer uses the twin side radiators and is converted to a single, large, front mounted radiator.

redliner172
03-27-2010, 12:20 PM
Whats wrong with resembling all the others? It would go against everything Erik Buell stands for.

"Different in every sense"

If this is the case, and it is, thats what is wrong with resembling the others. He could have been just as successful as the others if another factory, who was just as excited about racing as Erik was, picked the brand up and pushed them. NOT HD. And as much as I dislike HD I will not turn this into a "I hate HD thread" haha.

JohnD
04-14-2010, 05:14 PM
The May, 2010 issue of "Cycle World", pages 40-51 has a story, "The Demise of the Buell Motorcycle Company", plus a review of the never-to-be 2011 Barracuda 2. Every Buell owner should read or buy that issue.

When you read the story, Harley-Davidson comes off looking bad. HD deep-sixed the deal Erik Buell had arranged with Bombardier to basically save the Buell and then destroyed the dozen Barracuda 2 that had been built.

Seems to me HD wanted to make sure Bombardier would not become a competitor. In a year the non-compete agreement between Eric Buell and HD expires and Eric will be free to built street machines again. I hope the Phoenix arises and with it Buell.

redliner172
04-14-2010, 05:21 PM
DEFINITELY not 200 hp as first speculated but a 160hp 1125 engine...great redesign. Hopefully Bombardier can get it goin as the 2012 EBR B2

texasroadranger
01-10-2011, 07:18 PM
Hey guys, if you go to 'CYCLE WORLD' in May 2010, that bike is the 'Barracuda 2' that buell was gonna put out. Read the whole article. It is a bad ass bike.

delta one
01-10-2011, 07:24 PM
yup

Red93stang
01-10-2011, 07:29 PM
I guess threads never do die around here? 185 hp would have been nice!

freight dog
01-16-2011, 06:04 AM
I remember the Cycle World article saying that the Barracuda they test rode still had a stock 1125 motor and the guy only got a short road ride on it so he couldn't really push the bike but it was an obvious improvement. I do like the looks but I think EBR has hit a home run with the styling of the 1190. Too bad they went crazy with the price.

I looked into getting the new radiator kit and bodywork for my 1125 and even doing that would cost as much as I paid for my 1125. The radiator kit is not just a bolt on but requires either frame modification or a new frame entirely, I'm not sure which.

cheezits
05-05-2011, 12:16 PM
I still own this issue. Cycle World did a big 5 page article on the death of buell. and it explained the Barracuda in detail. It was not actually an 1125 motor. in fact it had a smaller displacement. But it did however, rev much faster. and have only 11 more hp then an 1125 motor. So i am very sorry to the people spouting about the 200hp motor but its not true. haha no matter how much i wish they were right. the Motor was based on the 1125 but not a copy. Erik was planning on putting this bike into the market by 2012. And he does have plans to produce this bike in the future. That is if he has not changed his mind since the Cycle world interview nearly a year ago.

dave_xb12r
05-05-2011, 12:22 PM
Didn't the article state that that motor was just temporary for prototype testing? They stated that they were disappointed about one they test rode not having the production motor in it.

Red93stang
05-06-2011, 06:34 AM
The 200hp came from someone I know in the Engineering group that had ties to this project and they were saying the powerplant was going to put out close to 200hp. Yes, dave I remember that as well, the one cycle world rode had a 1125 powerplant.

cheezits
05-06-2011, 11:14 AM
To answer Dave_xb12r. Yes after reading the article again. (its been a few months) the test model did in fact have an 1125 engine. but the article did go into much detail on the revised engine specs for the B2. Which were as such. 157hp at 10,300 rpm's and the same 82 peak FP of torque as the 1125 motor. It also went from a 61 mm bore with the 1125 to a more street friendly 56mm bore on the unfortunate b2 engine. as for Red93stang, your friend may very well be correct. we are all familiar with differences in performance on a machine to what a magazine will publish for legal reasons, Im a mechanic myself and the advertised HP of the engines i work on is much lower then what they actually put out. for all we know it could have just been propaganda to give other manufactures hope before Buell crushed them with the B2. Im still optimistic a platform like the B2 has WAY to much potential to be left on the side lines.

cheezits
05-06-2011, 11:18 AM
if anyone els would like to read the article i am sure it can be googled. it was in the May 2010 issue of Cycle world. and the B2 was on the cover. should be easy to find.

dave_xb12r
05-06-2011, 11:54 AM
I've been trying to find a frame for this magazine, so I can put it on my buell wall.

cheezits
05-06-2011, 12:00 PM
HAHA i did the same,
its hanging in my man cave above my bar.

onelogue
05-06-2011, 12:08 PM
IS there any way to get another copy of this magazine?

cheezits
05-06-2011, 12:12 PM
possibly contact Cycle World on the website. i have purchased old issue's of other magazines in the past. Cycle world may do the same.

texasroadranger
06-02-2011, 07:10 AM
found copy at dentist's office. asked doc if i could have it, and he said 'sure'. I have my copy...