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Thread: Stats on Buell Lightning XB12?

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    What are the main stats that will impress my friends that ride foreign sport bikes?
    I would start off by mentioning horsepower and torque numbers, followed by 1/4 mile times.

    Buell XB12 = 103hp 84ft-lbs 11.38@117.6 from 1200cc

    Then, I would compare it to a foreign bike. I would also have you note that as displacement goes up, the performance goes up, not down as if compared to a Buell.

    Triumph Daytona 675 = 110hp 49ft-lbs 10.72@130.0 from 675cc
    Suzuki GSX-R750 = 129hp 56ft-lbs 10.47@135.2 from 750cc
    Yamaha R1 = 155hp 73ft-lbs 9.77@147.79 from 1000cc

    Obviously, from a performance standpoint, there is no comparison. I suppose its not fair to compare a V-Twin, with its massive torque and lower horsepower to an inline multiple cylinder engine, so heres some stats on some foreign V-Twins.

    Aprilia RSV 1000 R = 139hp 79lb-ft 10.55@133.3 with 1000cc
    Honda RC51 = 119hp 72lb-ft 10.97@128.2 with 1000cc

    I would have to say that the raw power and torque of these mean ass bikes are the best aspects of the Buell XB12 motorcycles
    I would have to say the 'raw power' of a Buell is about 20 years behind the average foreign sport bike. The majority of 600cc (1/2 of the XB12's 1200cc) foreign sport-bikes produce 10-20hp (nearly 20%) more horsepower than a Buell.

    If you know how to ride and use the power you can pull away from a Yamaha R1 with noooo problem.
    An XB12 would have a hard time pulling away from a slightly modified Toyota Supra, let alone a foreign sport-bike.

    The next thing I would look at is price.

    Buell XB12 = $10,495
    Triumph Daytona 675 = $8,999
    Suzuki GSX-R750 = $9,999
    Yamaha R1 = $10,599
    Aprilia RSV 1000 R = $13,999
    Honda RC51 = $11.999

    This is the one category that Buell is competitive in. At least until you see how much performance your getting for your dollar. Plus I don't think I even have to mention the differences in styling. Cause lets be real, if you think the XB12 is good looking, its because you've been spending to many hours sitting at home staring at your wife. And anything that could possibly get you away from that cruel fate looks like a gift from heaven.

    Ahh, but there is always the chance that sport-bikes aren't really your thing. Because obviously, if you wanted a sport-bike, you would be buying one built by a foreign company. What you were actually looking for is a younger looking bike, that had the grunt of a Harley but not the styling of one. The bike you were really looking for is not a Buell, but a Triumph. The Rocket III to be more specific. The Rocket III is a British designed 3-cylinder bike, with some very impressive performance numbers.

    Triumph Rocket III = 140hp 147lb-ft 11.21@120.5 from a massive 2300cc motor

    Whats its price you ask?

    Triumph Rocket III - $14,999

    A bit more expensive than a Buell, but compared to the base price of a Harley, its a steal. It has more grunt than any American made bike could dream of. It also has a very sleek and refined styling that Harley guys can't even deny as amazing.

    Anyways
    Now there is some stats for ya.....


    -Buell4tl (Buellfortheloss)

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    I suppose some people do enjoy the street fighter look of the Buell XB12. If this is the case then I would recommend the Triumph Speed Triple. Stats are below.

    Triumph Speed Triple = 130hp 77lb-ft 11.01@122 from 1050cc

    Also here is a picture of the bike so you can see the similarities.

    http://www.sfondideldesktop.com/Imag...riple-0007.jpg

    The price is much more comparable as well.

    Triumph Speed Triple = $9,990

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    And BadAssBuell, My roommate has a 99 Honda CBR 600 carb bike and he eats me alive after 65mph in the straight lines. Buells aren't made to do the high speeds like the Jap bikes. I would pay money to see any year R1 get spanked by a Buell, because in all reality it wouldn't happen anywhere but the twisties... :)

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    Don't use any stats to impress them. Just use the extra money you save on insurance to buy them lunch. If 0 -100 mph is what you want, any of the 4 asian manufacturers are fine. But the reality of it is, as more and more of us piss the wrong people off by screaming around them at 100 mph+, the more we can expect the law to crack down on bikes of all kinds. Theres a point where you have to say "enough, I do this for me, because I enjoy it, and thats what matters". There is such a freedom in that, such a release, because then you start looking at a bike for what its going to be used for. If its touring, buy a bike thats suited for that. If you want to race, buy a racing bike, and go to the track. But if you ride the streets, how much sense does it make to be going over 100 mph? If you get caught, your riding days are OVER, period. And you justify the insurance nazis who want to make certain types of bikes illegal. Trouble is, it won't stop once it starts. Just ask the AMA. I just bought an XB12S, traded an Interceptor for it, and if it turns out to be a reliable bike, I won't have any regrets because I am already seeing the potential for more fun in the curves. I must be honest, I got compliments ALL THE TIME on the interceptor, and Its great for the ego. But when I rode thru the twisties I had to work a lot harder than I should have. The bike was beautiful but weighed over 550 lbs! (Work? I thought I was supposed to be having fun on my day off)So I traded for a bike whose reputation is fun, fun, fun! This is why we ride, no?
    Bottom line is, life is so short, you should be living it for God and for you. Buy for you, ride for you, and every time you finish a ride in one piece, thank God. (Besides, I gather from your name that you already know the answer to that question! LOL)

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    I have a 2007 XB12Ss and i is great. I just installed the Original Drummer exhaust along with a K&N air filter and a servo emuulator. Once the computer learned or adjusted for the new pipe (by running at approx. 3000-3500 rpm for about 15 minutes it ran great. I had a 2003 XB9S and this bike is a vastly improved model. It carries more fuel is slightly longer making it more stable with added room, it has a smoother clutch and improved pirelli tires as opposed to dunlops. Once you tweek the suspension settings to your weight its handling is awesome. :)

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    guess horse power wind races..some of those smaller jap bikes are 60 to 100 feet ahead at the finish,,talk about getting crushed...dont believe the buell time of 11.38..more reality somewhere in the 12s ???

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    looked at roll on numbers buells against smaller jap bikes 60 to 80 mph and 80 to 100 mph..torque was not that much of a factor as i thought it would be most jap bikes had better times in those rollons..still a buell man

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    Bump.

    I NEED MOAR STATS! ;) :P

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    Lets see....

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    not a stat but an actual fact: it's 2011 Laconia bike week and weather very nice for a change. 100,000 or more people at Weirs Beach for the evening. bike parking at a premium along main beach street. Forty or more folks mingling at one corner bike-watching. a bevy of "foreign" rice-rockets slowly ride by and not a single head is turned, no notice is given...even the guy who momentarily lights up his rear tire barely draws a glance. in rides myself on my firebolt and my 2 friends on lightnings. all 3 have hawk exhaust and other than that, pretty much all stock XB's. as we park by the corner hangers, half of them immediately break off to come over and admire our buells. i'll put that up against any paper stats any evening of the week.



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