Just to balance things out--I ride with my Grandson who has a new R1--Hard to keep up with, even with the 1190RX!

The bad stats show that the highest fatality's are in the 50ish demographic. Mostly these are guys who can finally afford the time and $ but have never ridden before. Practice makes perfect and these guys just plunk down the cash and head out.

Lunatic, One thing I noticed, 10 or 15 years after I gave up riding, was there 3-4 times as many guys zooming around doing what I used to be doing. I thought that was pretty cool and healthy. Nowadays--not so many out there. Hard to put one's finger on "why"--Could be the fault of the school system that does its best to feminize young men, basic social squashing and risk averse -- beats me.

Opto