20180207_152724 (Medium).jpg Here's what I hauled it in, just before I started the trek back.
Nope, I have not ridden this bike at all yet. Just started it up at the dealer and then started it once after trailering it 200 miles in the covered snowmobile trailer (shutoff after a few seconds of running rough), rolled into 55F garage, put on battery tender overnight and started it the next day.
I do know where that fuel pump is because I actually watched a youtube video on fuel pump replacement on this bike during my youtube search for similar setups with these problems. Didn't know about the fuel drain...nice thanks! These bikes really do have some pretty unique design features!
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20180207_152724 (Medium).jpg Here's what I hauled it in, just before I started the trek back.
happens frequently and pretty simple cure:
1-remove seat....carefully and closely check battery terminal connections....remove/clean/reinstall if suspect. buy or borrow a real battery charger and give it 6 amps for at least 15 minutes. tell you right up front if the battery now installed is some weirdo goof-ball chinese POS ditch it and buy a quality one. why? inevitably it will either leave you sit or dump multiple fault codes into your ecm and put a tremendous strain on the charging system.
2-plugs of choice are NGK DCPR9EIX. not all "9's" are iridium. if suffix is IX they are. can virtually guarantee yours are fouled and in need of replacement.
3-you have a faulty ground. either download a service manual from this site.....click on my name then recent posts...or google "buellXB ground wires-2008" and you'll see all of them listed.
start there. you have either a low voltage situation...fouled plugs...low fuel delivery. frame/tank has sufficient fuel i presume? is it fresh??
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Agreed, we know what it's like getting your new toy and not being able to play with it or being overly worried about something small and turning it into something bigger than it really is. Save your money, go out and turn some wrenches on it... even if just for piece of mind. Grounds, exhaust studs/collector clamp, oil condition/level in primary and swing arm, ECM harness plugs, inspect plugs/boots/coil connection, inspect wheel bearings etc...
Cooter, good call on the fuel pump housing drain, I totally forgot and I've used it multiple times! Also long time no talk to.
Thanks a lot man! I will check those things for sure but bike turns over just fine or at least the same as all youtube startups of xb9sx that I've watched. The battery was not dead even at temp. of 12F but I thought perhaps it was low and wanted to be certain so I connected it to my "OptiMATE 4 Dual Program, TM-241, 9-step 12V 0.8A Battery Saving charger-tester-maintainer" which I've been using on my other vtwins for a year and has worked great. It did do some charging on it but the next day (like 12 hours later) the bike started pretty much with the same cranking ease that it had when I first got home in the cold weather. The bike started just fine but again it was popping into the exhaust very loud as I described.
I have not yet drained the existing fuel in the bike and I plan to do so. Dealer only admitted to adding something called "starttron" to the fuel but didn't say anything about draining or topping off with fresh fuel. I have some 93 octane fresh fuel I plan to try once I drain it. I will also add seafoam to that.
I bought some NGK DCPR8E plugs (I think), which are what were specified from a cross reference from 10R12X. They are definitely cheaper copper ones for now since that is all the local stores had and I figure I may foul more plugs in trying to figure this out and the iridium IX ones are more expensive. I have the 9's on order.
I have the 2009 xb service manual downloaded. Just posted on here to learn from other owners and experts. I plan to connect to ECM and read any codes and collect more once I receive the USB dongle I ordered.
I'm hoping to get a video of this very soon to upload and show you all what is going on as well.
Thanks again. I do appreciate all of the insight.
Wow. Lots of good help,info and ideas. Good job fellas. I'm with Lunatic on this one. Plugs are fouled from starting and shutting off too many times without a proper complete warm up. Plugs and battery first. Then diag from there.
I did a cold start in my garage again (3rd startup) and the bike only backfired (popped in exhaust) once this time. It's barely noticeable in the video. I guess that's good? Except now it makes my concern seem unwarranted. Trust me this thing was exploding every few seconds last week like I've never seen an engine do before. Perhaps it was just environmental adjustment but if this thing does that every once in a while something's not right.
Here's around 8:16pm cold:
https://youtu.be/m5vj-4TxcBw
Here's a bit later restart after being off a few minutes:
https://youtu.be/raedAPHIIMo
Here's about an hour and a half later:
https://youtu.be/Ynlh0lDr5zY
Perhaps the engine was just not back to 55F from the 12F 2 hour trip even after 8-12 hours in the garage but has since warmed up? It is on tge opposite corner of the building as the modine heater, in front of the door.
I'll try again this morning.
I understand you have snow, but starting and starting ...... is not the best on a engine, it needs to be brought up to temp and taken out and driven at a higher rpm range. It might run fine after that.
Well so far I would say lowkey was correct about the bike adjusting to environmental conditions. Started it cold this morning and no popping or backfires, just rough warm up idle.
I am thinking that it just took the 2nd startup and run for 15-20 minutes to actually warm the engine to above the 55F temperature of the building. Like possibly it was still quite cold from the 3 hour trailer ride home in 12F temperature and the start this 2nd start next day is where it ran like crap but figured out the new conditions.
I'll post one or more videos to this thread demonstrating the improved start and I'll update with status in next few weeks.
Thanks!
Thanks but respectfully, I do know that. I'm
only new to motorcycles. I've got 3 sleds and
I've been around snowmobiles most of my
life. Before I got a battery tender, on years
that I didn't remove battery and put a storage
charge on them, l would start them every few weeks but always let them warm up to running temperature. My mistake here was in thinking this thing could rapidly compensate for super cold conditions after previously only started and run in a room temperature dealership.
Apparently these Buells have a performance motor that is a bit more cold blooded and
temperamental. I'm learning