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    06 XB12X Sidestand Repair

    Just got a '06 XB12X with a wobbly stand. Before I could look into it more, down it went. A previous owner had Helicoiled the Case holes with the short version and what looks like 3/4" bolts. Stock bolt size is 1 1/4" I think, so not enough threads to hold that much weight.

    The question, has anyone had experience using JB Weld on the case holes with a stud/nut setup for the sidestand bracket? I found 3/8" Allen head set screws (grade 8) of the right length. I was wondering if the JB Weld would bond the hole and grip the threads. The case is OK, no cracks I can see. The bolt holes were enlarged and threaded for the 5/16" X 3/4" Helicoils which pulled out. I can slip the 3/8" screw 3/4" into the holes in the case but would drill/tap the rest of the way to match the screw. The mounting bracket holes will need to be enlarged to match. I don't believe I could drill/tap and use a bolt, not enough meat to hold. I could hog it out to 7/16" but I wonder about the casting bosses being able to hold after removing that much material.

    Has anyone added a support to the bracket which ties into a third bolt somewhere on the lower part of the engine?

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    You should be OK to drill and tap (CAREFULLY) to the next size up without compromising the bosses in the case. Mark the drill bit so you don't drill too far, use a bottoming tap and get the exact length bolt for the job, cut one if you have to. Don't over-torque and use red loc-tite. Sorry it fell over

    FWIW the EBR's have a 3rd bolt on the kickstand bracket that actually bolts to the stock muffler to triangulate the mount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooter View Post
    You should be OK to drill and tap (CAREFULLY) to the next size up without compromising the bosses in the case. Mark the drill bit so you don't drill too far, use a bottoming tap and get the exact length bolt for the job, cut one if you have to. Don't over-torque and use red loc-tite. Sorry it fell over
    Was thinking the same, check.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooter View Post
    FWIW the EBR's have a 3rd bolt on the kickstand bracket that actually bolts to the stock muffler to triangulate the mount.
    I'd thought about fabbing up an extra tab onto the stand mount that might bolt to a boss welded to the muffler. Still tossing it around...

    Thank you!

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    -I own two 07, XB12STT's
    -Stand bolts on one of the bikes loosened
    -It went down in dramatic fashion on a WSF Ferry shearing both bolts
    -Fellow bikers helped me up and I put the stand in a carry bag
    -Sat on the bike all the way across Puget Sound
    -At home my wife held the bike while getting off and getting it up on stands
    -I worked out the sheared 1/4” bolts
    -I had made a wooden cradle for the muffler jacking points and can raise the bike fairly high
    -With my wife steadying the bike I drilled tap holes for 5/16” NC threads
    -Taped the holes then cleaned them with break cleaner
    -Reinstalled using copious amounts of Loctite Blue on the new Flange Bolt threads
    -Did the same on the other bike
    -This was years ago and nothings loosened since

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    I went with plan A.5 Bolt holes drilled and tapped for 3/8" NC studs. The holes were so big 3/4" in that I'd have needed a 7/16" bolt to get full threads for a bolt. I went to a smaller stud and will fill the hogged out area with JB Weld for support at the mounting surface. Should be dry out today so I'll finish up. I used a cherry picker to lower the cycle to the RH peg which was low enough to work on and allowed the hole to drain out the brake cleaner. I'll post pics later. Thanks for the replies.

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    Sounds like a recipe that will last the life of the bike. Well done

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    As I put the stand back together, is there any use to the small diameter "pin" at the top of the pivot pin? It seems to keep the S-shaped spring bracket from completely moving forward keeping the stand from being pulled into it's "parked" position? Contemplating grinding it off.

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    Initial Helicoil breakdown.
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    Uly on lift for work
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    Damage done by Helicoil repair and failure
    Case.jpg

    Drill and tap for 3/8" grade 8 set screw studs
    Stud.jpg

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    Stud.jpg

    This displays the actual depth of the existing 5/16" hole on my '06 Uly. YMMV

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    While JB Weld is curing I adjusted the pivot pin to gain full range movement of stand into forward position
    Pivot1.jpg
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    Muffler was looking sad so a coat of BBQ black
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