Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 36

Thread: New to me 2006 Buell Bast!

  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2021
    Posts
    14

    New to me 2006 Buell Bast!

    This will be the second (along with UseOnceandDestroy's) post on the current page introducing an '06 Blast purchase!

    Here's mine-- all stock, 17K miles, I'll be the third owner. Person I bought it from says it starts and runs fine, but I wasn't able to test that as I bought it last Sunday when it was -15 degrees and blowing snow! I know I took a risk, but I decided to take the owner's word for it. Only paid $1,000 for it, so that lowers the risk some.

    Unfortunately, with our weather, it looks like it's going to be a while before I can ride it, but spring is coming!

    2021-02-20 13.19.29.jpg

  2. #2
    Senior Member Cooter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Crawling up your skirt
    Posts
    9,044
    Welcome to the forum! Hope you can enjoy that little thumper soon

    -15 and blowing snow? Are you in Texas?

  3. #3
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2021
    Posts
    14
    I'm not in Texas, but up in the Great White North. Unfortunately, though, our state is in the power grid that also covers Texas. Due to the demand there, we had to have rolling blackouts here as the grid tried to deal with the Texas situation.

    I've lived here for over 50 years, and have never seen a power blackout due to cold. Let me tell you, there are plenty of discussions up here about why our power had to go out in order to deal with another state's problem that's thousands of miles away!

    Yesterday it got above freezing (for the first time in the last 16 days!), so I unloaded the bike from my truck and tried to start it. I charged the battery (which only took a few minutes as it was almost fully charged), and at first the starter motor wouldn't turn; there was just a click (like a relay, not the solenoid). It was really hard to roll the bike because it was in gear and hard to find neutral when it wasn't running. Strangely, it wouldn't roll (it was clearly turning the engine-- compression is good) even with the clutch in.

    I messed around with it a bit, and finally got it in neutral so that it would roll freely (even with the clutch out), but when I would try again a few minutes later (and without touching the shift lever) it would act like it was in gear again (either with the clutch in or out).

    So, not sure what that problem is, but in the course of working on it, the starter began to work. With it acting like it was in gear, I duck-paddled the bike to help the starter out, and it turned the engine decently, but no start. I sprayed some gumout directly into the card as a starter fluid (you can start anything on gumout!), but it didn't fire at all. One thing I noticed as I rolled with the starter turning was that the gears sometimes "skipped," like if there were some teet missing off the flywheel or something.

    It was getting dark, so I quit, and now we got 4" of snow this morning, so not going to mess with it today. But I'm left with these questions: why does is it always act like it's in gear, turning the engine and skidding the wheel even when the clutch is in? But on occasion, it lets go and rolls freely? And why won't it fire? With good compression and gumout in the carb, it would seem that it's a spark problem. The people I bought it from claimed that is running a month ago (when someone else came to look at it), and the charged state of the battery when I got it home would support that statement.

    I don't mind working on this bike. It's going to be a project/hobby. For some reason, I've always been a bit intrigued by the Blast. Never owned a Blast, any Buell, or any Harley, but always had the Blast in the back of my mind. Love the fact that the engine is Sportster-based. I also generally like single-cylinder bikes (I also have a KLR650 and a Savage 650), and single cylinder, standard street bikes are a bit rare (a few examples do exist like the TU250, and SR400). The Blast is not only a single street bike, it's American and (basically) a Harley-- rare and interesting (to me, at least!).

    I'll probably try to start the Blast next weekend. In the meantime, if anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

    Thanks!

  4. #4
    Senior Member Cooter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Crawling up your skirt
    Posts
    9,044
    The severe cold in the primary fluid, or bad clutch cable adjustment would easily explain the sticky clutch.

    A no start may take a little more fiddling but they are supremely simple machines. Does fuel come out of the carb if you drain the bowl? Does it smell like varnish? Full of junk? Got spark?

  5. #5
    Senior Member 34nineteen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    lunatic_fringe is ___________ my spirit animal
    Posts
    3,155
    Itís probably a sticky clutch plate(s).

    For the no start, have the battery load tested to make sure it has enough juice (amps) to crank the starter. A good test is if the headlight dims a lot or goes out when trying to start, thatís amps.

    Also try hooking up a jumper cable between the negative terminal and a clean unpainted part of the engine. If that solves it, you have a ground issue.

    Also try to pull out the relays and reseat them. Could be a flaky connection there and the removal and replacement of the relay could ďfixĒ the connection.

    I would recommend pulling the carb off (super easy) and pulling the float bowl and diaphragm cover off and cleaning it out with some high quality carb cleaner(not the cheap stuff). Itís pretty quick and easy and can make a big difference).
    Last edited by 34nineteen; 02-21-2021 at 11:08 PM.

  6. #6
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2021
    Posts
    14
    Thanks for the advice, guys. Agree that the cold weather may be causing some kind of stickiness in the clutch-- the amount of pull at the lever feels very normal/typical, so I don't think it's a cable problem. We're supposed to be in the 40's later this week, so maybe that will sort out on it's own.

    Once it started working, the starter was tuning fine and strong, and I was pedaling the bike to help it. I've not taken off the carb, but will if I need to. I can have the carb off my KLR650 (which I believe is the same carb as Harley uses) in about 10 min. I plan to have the carb off at some point soon to clean and re-jet it, but I was just hoping to hear it run before I did that.

    However, the fact that it wouldn't fire even with gumout sprayed into the intake would indicate it's not a fuel problem. I would have checked the spark at the plug, but it was getting late and the plug wasn't super-simple to reach (since it's kind of under the tank) so I quit for the night.

    As I mentioned, the bike is claimed to be working fine and was started and ridden just last month. The gas in the tank is good and the oil is clean. I bought it from a middle-aged woman who was selling because the Blast was her first bike and she had bought a Sportster (which was parked right next to the Blast). That doesn't necessarily prove anything, but the vibe was good with both the person and the story-- I think it's more likely than not that she's telling the truth.

    Really nice meeting you two, and I appreciate the advice. One of the appeals of the Blast is the "supreme simplicity" (love that phrase!) of this bike, so I'm not too worried about getting it running. I'll check back in after I look into it a bit more.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Barrett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Location
    AmishLand, PA
    Posts
    230
    Jim: in the world of XL's....XR's...XB's...and P3's, your problem is more common than you'd think. it's a 4-stroke single so keep in mind that if it has compression-spark-fuel-timing, it has no choice. it has to run and it will run. you are likely missing spark, assuming the air intake system hasn't been inhabited by vermin or other nesting creatures. check it!

    do your fuel and carb work
    replace the spark plug
    check both the primary/trans and engine oil levels and leave in place for now
    then when procedures are completed, attempt to start in neutral....clutch disengaged....battery fully charged...rear wheel off the ground....relay contact points checked and cleaned
    after it starts, and it will....get some heat in the motor and free up the clutch pack. DO NOT attempt to do this by placing the front wheel against an immovable object and forcing it into 1st gear. if you don't know the proper procedure, simply ask me to walk you thru it.

    then change all the fluids and replace with correct quantities and viscosities...and correctly adjust the clutch cable....clutch pack...primary drive chain.

    click my name...click latest posts....scroll to blast/P3 post....click link i provided to online P3 service manual.

  8. #8
    Senior Member 34nineteen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    lunatic_fringe is ___________ my spirit animal
    Posts
    3,155
    The master has spoken. Bow twice before leaving.

  9. #9
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2021
    Posts
    14
    Thanks, Barrett, very helpful.

    Having never owned a Harley, Buell, or any other bike with a separate transmission case, that part will be a learning experience for me. So your advice on that is very helpful to me as that's an area where I'm a true newbie.

    As far as getting it started, I may have overstated my question and made it sound more like a plea. In fact, I've restored quite a few (Japanese) bikes over the past 30 years and have never failed to get one to start. My guess is that there's nothing seriously wrong with this Buell, and my question on starting was mostly to make sure I wasn't missing anything specific to this bike (e.g., kickstand position, clutch engagement, secret kill switch, whatever) that I may not know about that's preventing it from starting. Doesn't mean that I won't be back with a question on that if I exhaust all the normal stuff and it still won't start, but given the straightforward nature of this bike, I'm not expecting any big problem with that.

    I have a very busy job, so I won't be able to do a ton of work over a short time, but I'll work on it as I can and expect to have it running soon. I'll do as you advise as per oil changes, etc., and thanks for the link to the service manual. I'm also going to peruse this forum a bit to try to get more info on this bike. I expect to have it for a while, and it will be ridden, so I'll do my best to learn from previous posts here.

    I want to ride it a bit as is, then will look to re-jetting the carb and possibly changing the exhaust (it's pretty rough with some holes rusted through the header pipe). I'm not looking for any performance gains, just want to remedy any factory lean conditions and perhaps save a little weight with the exhaust change (I don't particularly care about the sound of it).

    I don't have any grand aspirations for this bike-- I just want the same as I do for any bike I've had: I'd like to get it tuned/modified only to the extent that it is as it's full potential in stock form. So not looking to mod it to 100 hp, just want to remove any arbitrary restrictions (e.g., lean jetting, any overly-heavy components) that keeps it below it's maximum potential as stock. Rather than focus on performance, I generally attempt to achieve maximum reliability as I like to do weekend trips on my bikes.

    After I remove any artificial restrictions and feel confident in the reliability, I don't plan to mess with it any further-- I will just ride and enjoy it as is.

    I really do appreciate the advice from everyone, and I'll update my progress here as I make it.

    Thanks again!

    (Bowing *three* times as I leave! )

  10. #10
    Senior Member 34nineteen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    lunatic_fringe is ___________ my spirit animal
    Posts
    3,155
    FYI, this bike does not have a separate transmission case.

    FYI, I like single cylinder bikes as well, and am considering a Husqvarna Vitpilen. I've always thought the Savage 650's were pretty awesome. What is a SR400?

    FYI, someone is selling a Pro Series exhaust on eBay.

    PS. I get having a busy job and limited time to work on bikes. Welcome to my world.

    PS. Read up on Blast mods and advice on buellridersonline.com. Our good friend, jetlee is the bossman over there and does a fine job keeping the wisdom of everything Blast in one spot.

    PS. Also check to make sure the auto enrichment circuit is working correctly (exclusive to the Blast, its basically and auto choke).



Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •