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    'Melvins'

    Melvins. Thats what they should call them. And fine! You do you, Bill, but be honest about it. Want "Ten new models in a year"? cool. Still 'Melvins'. I really don't see the need to buy or use the Buell (TM) for any reason. Sure motorcycles have been re-branded many times before for a market base because of nostalgia or reputation. It's a long list of current brands that apply to that.

    Buells aren't old enough for nostalgia, and from a reputation standpoint, let's be honest. The gen pops opinion of Buells reputation is 'weird brakes and bankrupt twice', or even 'great engineer' if they know a little, but neither equate to selling a new brand?. Even assembling EBR's from warehouse parts is not "Buell (TM)". They haven't engineered a single piece on it and they're not making XB's.

    Melvin stated their "Lead Engineer" Is Jacob Stark. No offense to him, but his qualifications is not an Engineering degree on the wall. They are FaceBook self-promotional guy who "Figured I'd start to work on bikes about 10 year ago", and lost a shop to his GF by not paying the bills. Maybe he's great! Maybe he's not. But he's not any "Engineer" until he finishes engineering school. He might even re-think some of the parts he sells

    At least when the EBR 1190 came out it was competitive. Although less than a year later it was electronically dated and I do NOT see EBR being able to keep up on that front then, or especially now with Melvin. A $20K hyper sport bike without even ABS?! Are you joking? Groms have ABS! In fact, with the new infrastructure bill it will be ILLEGAL to sell a motorcycle without ABS.

    I still am very much in love with my EBR, It's the LAST analog hyper sport bike we will ever see.
    My Bubbles says "Damn, they are sucking the cool out of your bike" and I couldn't agree more

    TL;DR
    Get off my lawn.

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    Loved the "Stark financial deadbeat" rant. Looks the type.
    Speaking of which.....The Punisher nailed it, many months ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ2fUgLgEFA

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    Thats so bad it is uncomfortable to watch.
    I originally thought it would be an avenue for continued parts availability for my favorite bike() but turns out LAP seems to be single handedly financing Bill's dream by hiking EBR parts prices to the MOON Even drawing the used parts market up with it.

    Jacobs shop thing was a little personal as I have a friend that got screwed in the process (and I know of others), not to mention that as a shop owner for over 22 years, I NEVER left a bill unpaid. NEVER. It adds a bad rep to an already poorly perceived industry, AND none of his responses had the slightest hint of culpability. Every excuse in the book. "**** happens" would have been better. But instead, "My girlfriend didn't pay the bills!" c'mon man... Like I said, I've met Jacob a few times, and I liked him. But business? Uh, hard pass.

    Check out what the new Buell® "Lead Engineer" designed all by himself!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGK6oEgLEKE
    BTW, I got 12,000 miles of 80% track use before I changed my front pulley.

    Note the promotion attempt by posting YouTube vids under different names. Shady, old hat, and so bad it's not even convincing. They self-make every 3 minute YouTube promotional video (that also read from the same script), show the same horrible 3 renderings and a picture of the first Black Lightning from 2016 over and over.

    The latest press had a 6 pictures. 4 of the 'shop' repeated and scanned terribly, with some horrible photochop add-ons (of the SAME renderings) and 2 of people important enough to shake hands with but no names? Partner from the UAE? Cool! WHO is it?

    This all SCREAMS of scam, but I just can't see where the money comes from? Are they playing the bigger game of venture capitalists? Hike up the perceived value, go public, sell shares, profit? Sorry but thats played out already, and again.

    All that, and I'm confident someone in 2022 paying $20K for a bike designed a decade earlier will actually get that bike. It's not a scam at that level, but theres definitely something going on.

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    Funny you mentioned abs on even a Honda grom India was the first to require ABS. On bikes about 2017 (either the passage or implementation ) thus bringing the price down over the next few years. There is no reason the new “Buell’s” should not have ABS standard and if the new engineer is worth his salt then a retro fit kit based on that would be offered for any XB based bike helping to get the production numbers up.
    Why get paid only once for your work or knowledge?
    On all new liter bikes are only three different ABS systems each with their own calibration.
    How much can they really cost a manufacturer if a $3995.00 Honda can have it.

    PLUS I want a kit for my XT.



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